1967 p kennedy ddo?

Jody, or anyone else...If you were to write a description for this half dollar in some variety listing, what would it be?

Larry Nienaber

 

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I was going to leave this thread alone but …………..

First, I will call your bluff. You assure me that several of the Kennedy half dollars listed by CONECA are as minor or more minor than the one the OP started this thread on. Instead of listing them all, please name just two that are as minor let alone more minor if you can.

I doubt that Wexler would even list the 1967 Kennedy half dollar that started this thread and he will list almost anything. Personally from the photos provided, I see no doubling present on the coin in question, even the tops of the “U” in trust

Respectfully if varieties are your field of expertise and you call this coin a DDO then please don’t give up your day job, your family might go hungry. I say this with all humility, if you doubt my commitment both financially and time wise to collecting and study Kennedy half dollars then go to the PCGS Registry and look at the top sets of complete Kennedy varieties but remember that my set(s) will be looking back at you.

I will wait with baited breath to see your two examples of listed CONECA Kennedy varieties that have less or the same degree of doubling – it is time to back up your statement or be big enough to admit when you are wrong.

Respectfully,
Caleb

 

If indeed fact and probably listed at CONECA, the OP, who does have the coin in-hand, should be able to identify it, right? This is not to say you are wrong, but only that I cannot help but to question why someone who sells varieties is unable and/or unwilling to take the time to properly identify prior to listing.

Perhaps, if the OP had taken the time to provide better images instead of running off to list, I would be able to agree with you. However, since hopefully making a few bucks seems more important than possibly learning something, or participating in an intelligent discussion, here we are.

No offense intended, but I simply cannot see enough in the photos to definitely state that it is or is not the claimed variety.

 

I would call it a lightly hubbed class II doubled die.

 

1964 DDO-013
1964 DDO-016
1964 DDO-023
1964 DDO-025

And I haven't even gotten all the way through the obverse doubled dies for 1964 yet.

I could care less about your registry sets. Most of the guys that collect plastic for registry sets wouldn't recognize a doubled die unless the PCGS label has the FS# on it.

 

I'll show you better photos when the coin arrives.

 

do these pics help?

 

I hope it is because someone thought it was and just gave me my BIN for $20
I probably should have enlarge the photos for the original post. that was my mistake and I apologize for creating a disturbance within the CT community. I will be sure to get better pics prior to posting in the fure

 

That was me Bryan. No doubt in my mind.

 

well ty. if you get it attributed could you come back and let me know for sure?

 

I have my own system, so normally don't get my coins attributed, but if I match it up with anyone's numbering system, I'll let you know.

 

Jody, will you take pictures of the coin when you receive it? I would be interested in seeing the results.

 

Sure will Simon.

 

And Caleb-

When I said that I could care less about your registry sets, I simply meant that having even the top registry set tells me nothing at all about your abilities to judge and assess doubled dies. You may be able to do so, or you might not, but the proof will come via a method other than saying, "look at my registry sets." I'm sure you've got some gorgeous coins in your sets, and in that respect, I would like to see them.

 

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I look forward to seeing them, sir, and have the utmost respect for a man of such conviction.

 

Caleb, his Dad, and Larry are THE "goto guys" for Kennedy Half Dollar Varieties. If ever there was a Holy Trinity of Kennedy Specialists, these three would be it!

None of them buy just to be buying and none of them trusts a TPG label as all know precisely what constitutes a doubled die.

Please be sure to share clear photographs of the coin when you receive it.

 

That may be the case, but telling me you have a registry set does not, ipso facto, prove that. I've come across plenty of registry set variety collectors who would be stumped by MD if found in the raw.

 

I believe that I did not just tell you that I had a Registry set but actually linked one set in this thread. If you had bothered to look at the set linked, you would have noticed that it is not just an average run of the mill Registry set. You would have also noticed that I don’t necessarily go by what PCGS puts on the label for they are known to miss-attribute varieties on occasion.

Just because a coin has Machine Damage Doubling on it does not mean that it is not a doubled die, case in point look at this coin that we got listed (that we found in the raw) and you will notice MD on it but it is still a strong Doubled Die: http://www.varietyvista.com/1973SDDR003%20half.htm

19Lyds – I thank you for the complement but I consider myself just maybe a “well informed hobbyist”, no where near being in the same league as Larry or Dr. Wiles on the humble Kennedy half dollar series. By the way, I know a good home for your 1966 DDO-034 if you ever what to put it up for adoption?