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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;foundinrolls, post: 675067, member: 4350&quot;]Machine doubling is damage.&nbsp; It even used to be called machine doubling damage until many professionals pointed out that that was redundant.&nbsp; We know it is damage so why say it is &quot;damage damage&quot;&nbsp; so to speak.</p><p><br /></p><p>You may find it called an error because there was a whole generation of collectors influenced by the worst error book known to man that considered many junk coins to be errors when they were not.</p><p><br /></p><p>machine doubling is damage done to a coin while the die hops, twists or chatters as the coin is struck.&nbsp; It can also occur as a coin is ejected from the die.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>In any case a nice coin has the metal moved and damaged as a part of the strike.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also,&nbsp; since machine doubling is within the tolerances set by the Mint, the U.S. Mint or most experts in the field agree that machine doubling is damage and is not an error.&nbsp; It will reduce the grade of a coin if it is slabbed.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The die scrapes the details of the coin and that&#039;s damage no matter how you slice it.</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as Fleabay....most of the coins listed as Doubled Dies or incorrectly as double dies are coins that exhibit worthless machine doubling so gauging anything on these by using Fleabay is not the best idea.&nbsp; If junk sells,&nbsp; it&#039;s still junk<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>There are experts on Ebay that really do sell doubled dies that know what they are doing and the other less than knowledgeable folks listing and selling machine doubled coins are doing a disservice to coin collectors.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The question as to page14.html can easily be answered.&nbsp; None of the coins on that page fall within the acceptable specs set by the U.S. Mint.&nbsp; They are errors.&nbsp; Errors are outside the normal specs.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I hope that helps a little bit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Bill[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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