Lesson 101 . When you start to try to find out which DDR you have, start with the images on the index page . http://varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/DDR 1964-D.htm This is how I start, first match the " C " in CENT to the index page . I like to start with the bottom devices . Next, match the " O " in ONE . Next, Take a image of the date and mint-mark for placement . This should be a good start for matching which one you have . It's lunch time, so I'll be back with more images . But for now, see if you can match one with these images . Should be easy . Remember to always get your plumb right on your images .
Just got done eating . Here's images of both sides of the memorial . Viewers right is doubled . Viewer left isn't . I'll be back with more images .
The "flat" doubled Dies are perplexing to all of us but the attributers get to look at many examples of the same variety and see that multiple examples are the same, not just similar (as with MD). We are looking at a single example and single examples do make us question the flat-ness of some varieties. Same here and variety attributors may even get to review multiple MS examples, found in rolls, of the same variety. And when the doubling is exactly the same it is on the die and not MD. (Master Die doubling is another matter though.) 1909 LWC DDO-001 is a prime example of that shelf-like doubling that isn't debated (as far as I'm aware).
As I posted...not to me. You have described a good way to ID a doubled die coin WHEN you have several published images of it plus some of the markers as we find on Wexler's site. For the OP's coin we have a image of on specific part - that's all. Even Mr. Potter would agree that images need to be taken :just right" or they become less than perfect. That's why they can be helpful but often not absolute as in this case. You have a good argument plus the experience to be absolutely correct. While it really does not matter if I agree with you or not, I need more evidence to change my opinion. PS The shelf under the "O" on your coin differs from VV. The foot of the "N" is not split either. As I wrote, it may be the lighting
The MM does not look to be in the right position. Maybe @1stSgt22 can check the coin and get back to us.
@Rick Stachowski Which are you saying DDR-015 or DDR-005? I don't see either one as a possibility close. MD is what I think.
First it was #015. NOT! Now it is #005. NOT! If you were not so important that you sit next to Ken Potter at shows, I should think you were just trolling the thread. Now pick another DDR# for us.
Don't forget that die state/stages play a big part when attributing Doubled Dies. 015 doesn't have the hair clash between the bays, 005 the doubling looks more pivoted, but if a mechanical issue happened? That would be why most of us say MD. Rick is always pretty solid when he responds to threads, giving away his knowledge. P.S. I am sure there is a lot to be learned when your sitting with error specialists at shows.
UGH!!! This is getting way out of hand!!! Glad I'm not a newbie!! This could drive me crazy trying to decide what to do!! It's just a penny guys! I'm not going to send it in so guess I'll just put it in a 2X2 and label it doubling of some kind!! I'm happy if you are!!!!
Hey dummies I'm talking about my coin is DDR number five, don't know what's you guys are talkin about
Why in the heck do folks like to post OTHER COINS THAT HAVE ABSOLITELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING? Clue to all: When the OP of a thread posts an image and askes a direct question about the coin in the image, unless they ask to see other examples THAT ARE A DIRECT MATCH FOR THEIR COIN... Now, taking the foot out of my mouth I shall repeat my opinion. Using the OP's image and the part of the DDR in VV, the OP's coin is neither a DDR nor a match for DDR#15. Furthermore, IMO, it is not worth spending any more than a few postage tamps to have it checked for free at Coin World. I would offer to have ICG look at it for free but the postage costs are looney! Besides, the OP needs an independent opinion so...- Good luck and I really, really hope I'm wrong and Rick is correct - cross my heart.
I was hoping the OP would take new images so we could all see the difference from new to old . That's the reason I did the photo lesson .