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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2719611, member: 112"]The one, and only reason that NGC uses SP is because PCGS calls them SMS. They do not do it because they consider them to be specimen strike coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Like I tried to explain above, both TPGs go out of their way to use different designations on their slab labels just to be different from the other guy. And they do this with many different types of labels - when the exact same coins are in their slabs. For example, NGC uses UCAM while PCGS uses DCAM. Both of them have even gone so far to change their own slab labels from what they were using in previous years. It's like a game they play with each other.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason that SMS was used to describe these coins, and that is what was used from the very beginning, is because when the coins were first discovered most numismatists considered them to be trial strikes or test strikes for the '65, '66, and '67 SMS coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>It was only in later years when the TPGs began playing their game that names other than SMS began being used. But yeah, I agree with you, they are NOT really SMS coins because there was never any intention of the '64 coins being released and sold to the public.</p><p><br /></p><p>And when coins are minted as part of a test to see how future planned coins might turn out, what do you call them ? You have to give them a name of some kind. And in every case that I know of where this was done, and it is pretty much done with all coins of new type, the test strikes, trial strikes (choose your term) are named for the type that they are being tested for. And in this case that was SMS.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2719611, member: 112"]The one, and only reason that NGC uses SP is because PCGS calls them SMS. They do not do it because they consider them to be specimen strike coins. Like I tried to explain above, both TPGs go out of their way to use different designations on their slab labels just to be different from the other guy. And they do this with many different types of labels - when the exact same coins are in their slabs. For example, NGC uses UCAM while PCGS uses DCAM. Both of them have even gone so far to change their own slab labels from what they were using in previous years. It's like a game they play with each other. The reason that SMS was used to describe these coins, and that is what was used from the very beginning, is because when the coins were first discovered most numismatists considered them to be trial strikes or test strikes for the '65, '66, and '67 SMS coins. It was only in later years when the TPGs began playing their game that names other than SMS began being used. But yeah, I agree with you, they are NOT really SMS coins because there was never any intention of the '64 coins being released and sold to the public. And when coins are minted as part of a test to see how future planned coins might turn out, what do you call them ? You have to give them a name of some kind. And in every case that I know of where this was done, and it is pretty much done with all coins of new type, the test strikes, trial strikes (choose your term) are named for the type that they are being tested for. And in this case that was SMS.[/QUOTE]
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