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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2719442, member: 112"]And that's the argument for why I think they should be called trial strikes, or test strikes. Something along those lines. SP (specimen) coins are coins that were made and fully intended to be released and sold to the public. The '64 SMS coins were not. They were made in very small numbers, struck with dies that were not even completed, and never intended to be released. So there's no way, just no way, that they could be considered Specimen coins. And when you couple that with the fact that the mint fully intended to make and sell '65 (and later) SMS coins, and the '64s were obviously made immediately prior to that, does it not seem logical that mint was testing things for next year ? That's what trial strikes are, a test, to see how things will work out. Which is why I said I don't what else you could call them other than trial strikes. I mean if these coins aren't trial strikes, what coins are trial strikes ? But, different people are "different people", and they want to call things by different names, seemingly anyway, just because they want to. As for the TPGs, and what "they" call the coins, label the coins; that has more to do with one TPG consciously making an effort to be different than the other guy by using a different name on their label than it does to do with name accuracy or proper labeling. NGC and PCGS do this all the time and have since their inceptions.[/QUOTE]