1964 sms Kennedy found in a roll

Discussion in 'Coin Roll Hunting' started by Newcoinboy2018, Sep 22, 2018.

  1. Newcoinboy2018

    Newcoinboy2018 Active Member

    FF400F06-15E0-42E1-91E5-55FD4D853B37.jpeg 1197B864-0954-4458-B889-3CED42E0D5ED.jpeg I know a coin dealer that sometimes sells coins at spot price because of the amount that pass through the business. Yesterday, I woke up early with a serious itch to visit the dealer. Being allowed to look through a roll of uncirculated 1964 Kennedy halves was an option I had no idea was coming. Boy, was I excited! When I further inspected the seven I picked out of the roll at home, I noticed one to be much different, and may be one of the few SMS coins struck in the '64 date. Would you have it graded?
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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's not an SMS coin. It's a normal 1964 half.
  4. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Once it's out of the packaging, it would be very difficult to prove it was an SMS coin.
  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

  6. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    If the 1964 has no packaging, then forgive me the HUGE fopa.
    Your cryptic post doesn't help one bit.
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  7. Newcoinboy2018

    Newcoinboy2018 Active Member

    It has the “dangling 4” but this photo doesn’t do it justice. I plan to have it graded. I don’t think it has to be from sms packaging.
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  9. Newcoinboy2018

    Newcoinboy2018 Active Member

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    Then why does it have the diagnostic die marker??
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  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

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  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Is it really an identical marker, or are you simply interpreting an anomaly on your coin to be a match based solely upon the desire for the coin to be something special? Honest question and is something we all must ask ourselves if faced with the similar.

    When it comes to things like this, the basic principle behind Occam's Razor is usually a safe bet.

    For your comparison: your coin and a known example in the Heritage archives....

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  12. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Very nice job lining up those 2 images for comparison, Books.
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  13. Mkman123

    Mkman123 Well-Known Member

    If OP keeps thinking its one of the rare SMS coins, submit it to NGC or PCGS, then he/she will see
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It's not a SMS. It's a normal 1964 half. If you feel otherwise pay the fees and submit. When it comes back as a normal '64 please don't blame us.
  15. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Normal 1964 half. "Die marker" is in the wrong location. It should be attached to the horizontal part of the 4. Yours is attached to the vertical part. Not SMS.
  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The letters and date don't have that sharp bold look they should have.
  17. Newcoinboy2018

    Newcoinboy2018 Active Member

    They introduced package sms coins in 1965
    Ok. No one has to believe me. C0985D9F-FB0C-4A45-96A7-1C8C57E153D1.jpeg 2349E584-7E63-4B2C-B7A5-FC108232C3F1.jpeg A224A8F5-83F3-42C2-A691-3E8A20146793.jpeg ED3055BC-30AB-4E35-8CD5-F80A76F410D9.jpeg A319C6EE-824E-464A-B620-D49942706518.jpeg
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    If you feel that sure, send it to PCGS.
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  19. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    If you research the 1964 SMS sets you'll find that all the coins were found in the estate of a former mint director. A well known dealer was believed to have acquired all of them in the early 90's and they started showing up in auctions and many (all???) were sent to TPGs and slabbed.

    Now maybe you would like to explain a plausible situation where someone could find one in a bulk silver lot?

    Moral of the story, don't listen to the YouTube and strike it rich in pocket change crap. Yes, the 1964 SMS coins are rare and valuable. But you are no more likely to get one in change than a 1913 Liberty Nickel.
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  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You are so correct. But when I was younger I got a 1913 Nickel in change. It has a Buffalo on the reverse. But on the obverse is the word LIBERTY. I was told this is a 1913 Liberty nickel. I know only 5 are known, 2 in museums and I have one of the three in private hands. I have it on my possession and no one can tell me otherwise. Here's a photo for proof. IMG_2804.PNG

    This is sarcastic as I can get at this hour. Please send in your half for grading. We would love to see the results.
  21. Sullysullinburg

    Sullysullinburg Well-Known Member

    I have an idea if you're still not convinced, take it to the dealer you bought it from, see if he'll give you SMS money for it.
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