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<p>[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 1939471, member: 4781"]I was informed of the existence of this thread and was asked to participate.</p><p>I would like to clarify some of the information discussed in this thread (in no particular order).</p><p> </p><p>1) The coin shown in the original post of this thread is one of the cheap Chinese-made pieces. It was not struck over a genuine Peace Dollar. It is not made of actual silver (in fact, it probably would stick to a magnet). Other identifying characteristics are the crudely-formed "64" in the date, a general mushy-ness of the design, and a rough texture on the high points in the centers.</p><p>Here is a link to another eBay auction which shows the (lack of) details a little better: <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/380924471221" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/380924471221" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/380924471221</a></p><p>And here is another eBay one that has less roughness, but the same mal-formed "64": <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/151328372721" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/151328372721" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/151328372721</a></p><p>Compare the shape of the "64", and the general detail level and luster, with the over-strikes that I did:</p><p><img src="http://www.designscomputed.com/coin_pics/peace_pair_B.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>And here is my production "blog" showing all the details of my production:</p><p><a href="http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_1.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_1.htm</a></p><p> </p><p>2) In my minting activities, I use original designs of my own. I also sometimes use and adapt designs of past US coins. Such designs were originally created using taxpayer dollars, and so by law thay can not be copyrighted. Only a very few modern US coin designs are actually copyrighted. "Explicit permission" is not required. But, as always, any use of these designs (or any other designs) for <i>fraudulent</i> purposes is illegal.</p><p> </p><p>3) The US Mint has never given any "blessing" to any private mint. They simply tolerate such mints that operate within the law. As far as I know, there has only been three legal actions against private minters in the last several years:</p><p>A) National Collectors Mint was fined as a result of complaints about their marketing of the "Freedom Tower Silver Dollar", which claimed to be legal-tender of the Northern Mariana Islands.</p><p>B) The US Mint sued the Washington Mint for making large 3-inch replicas of the Sacagawea Dollar. The Sacagawea Dollar obverse is one of the very few US coin designs which actually <i>is</i> copyrighted.</p><p>C) Bernard Von Nothaus was convicted of "counterfeiting" for his organization's attempts at placing his "Liberty Dollars" into commerce as legal tender.</p><p> </p><p>4) Peace Dollars dated "1964" were minted in May of 1965. However, the US Treasury Department's official final word on the subject (issued in 1973) states that ALL were melted and the coins "were never issued". So they do not exist according to the government.</p><p> </p><p>5) I was never an "engraver" for the US Mint. However, I was a finalist in the Sacagawea limited invitational design competition. As such, I was later invited by the US Mint to submit designs for all five of the 2001 state quarters. Ten US Mint staff members and about 20 outside artists submitted designs. My designs were chosen for New York and Rhode island. The US Mint asked me to revise my Rhode Island design to have it show a specific ship. I revised my design and the US Mint used it as I had finally submitted it, with no major changes. At the time, the Mint's policy was to not credit the designers of state quarters. Only the US Mint sculptors/engravers were credited. I did receive a $2,500 payment from the US Mint for each of the designs that were used. Here is my web page with images of the original sketches: <a href="http://designscomputed.com/coins/sq_2001.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://designscomputed.com/coins/sq_2001.html" rel="nofollow">http://designscomputed.com/coins/sq_2001.html</a></p><p> </p><p>6) For the 2003 state quarters, the US Mint was not accepting any artwork from outside the Mint. I submitted a design directly to Maine in their state-run "design contest". The state of Maine chose my design as the winner, and they wanted it for their state quarter. But the US Mint wanted to do their own artwork for it, which they did, based on a narrative of my design concept. People from Maine generally didn't like the US Mint version. Here is my web page showing my original design for the Maine state quarter: <a href="http://designscomputed.com/coins/sq_2003.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://designscomputed.com/coins/sq_2003.html" rel="nofollow">http://designscomputed.com/coins/sq_2003.html</a></p><p> </p><p>7) I do not always mark the pieces I mint with "DC". If the piece is my own design, then it is either marked with: small "DC" letters (with the "C" in the shape of a crescent moon as a reference to Moonlight Mint); or a stylized "DC" inside a circle logo.</p><p>When I do a fantasy-date over-strike, the date alone is a significant mark. In the case of the "1964-D" Peace Dollar over-strikes, I also have published on my blog (linked above) the specific characteristics and mint-mark double-punching which can be used to identify them. The only time I have done over-strikes that weren't a fantasy date was the 2009 "proofed" Silver Eagles. The US Mint did not issue any proof Silver Eagles that year. So I took regular non-proof 2009 Silver Eagles and over-struck them to give them a cameo proof appearance. On those coins, in addition to the proof finish, I added a "DC" mint mark to the reverse as an added identifier.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 1939471, member: 4781"]I was informed of the existence of this thread and was asked to participate. I would like to clarify some of the information discussed in this thread (in no particular order). 1) The coin shown in the original post of this thread is one of the cheap Chinese-made pieces. It was not struck over a genuine Peace Dollar. It is not made of actual silver (in fact, it probably would stick to a magnet). Other identifying characteristics are the crudely-formed "64" in the date, a general mushy-ness of the design, and a rough texture on the high points in the centers. Here is a link to another eBay auction which shows the (lack of) details a little better: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/380924471221[/url] And here is another eBay one that has less roughness, but the same mal-formed "64": [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/151328372721[/url] Compare the shape of the "64", and the general detail level and luster, with the over-strikes that I did: [IMG]http://www.designscomputed.com/coin_pics/peace_pair_B.jpg[/IMG] And here is my production "blog" showing all the details of my production: [url]http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_1.htm[/url] 2) In my minting activities, I use original designs of my own. I also sometimes use and adapt designs of past US coins. Such designs were originally created using taxpayer dollars, and so by law thay can not be copyrighted. Only a very few modern US coin designs are actually copyrighted. "Explicit permission" is not required. But, as always, any use of these designs (or any other designs) for [I]fraudulent[/I] purposes is illegal. 3) The US Mint has never given any "blessing" to any private mint. They simply tolerate such mints that operate within the law. As far as I know, there has only been three legal actions against private minters in the last several years: A) National Collectors Mint was fined as a result of complaints about their marketing of the "Freedom Tower Silver Dollar", which claimed to be legal-tender of the Northern Mariana Islands. B) The US Mint sued the Washington Mint for making large 3-inch replicas of the Sacagawea Dollar. The Sacagawea Dollar obverse is one of the very few US coin designs which actually [I]is[/I] copyrighted. C) Bernard Von Nothaus was convicted of "counterfeiting" for his organization's attempts at placing his "Liberty Dollars" into commerce as legal tender. 4) Peace Dollars dated "1964" were minted in May of 1965. However, the US Treasury Department's official final word on the subject (issued in 1973) states that ALL were melted and the coins "were never issued". So they do not exist according to the government. 5) I was never an "engraver" for the US Mint. However, I was a finalist in the Sacagawea limited invitational design competition. As such, I was later invited by the US Mint to submit designs for all five of the 2001 state quarters. Ten US Mint staff members and about 20 outside artists submitted designs. My designs were chosen for New York and Rhode island. The US Mint asked me to revise my Rhode Island design to have it show a specific ship. I revised my design and the US Mint used it as I had finally submitted it, with no major changes. At the time, the Mint's policy was to not credit the designers of state quarters. Only the US Mint sculptors/engravers were credited. I did receive a $2,500 payment from the US Mint for each of the designs that were used. Here is my web page with images of the original sketches: [url]http://designscomputed.com/coins/sq_2001.html[/url] 6) For the 2003 state quarters, the US Mint was not accepting any artwork from outside the Mint. I submitted a design directly to Maine in their state-run "design contest". The state of Maine chose my design as the winner, and they wanted it for their state quarter. But the US Mint wanted to do their own artwork for it, which they did, based on a narrative of my design concept. People from Maine generally didn't like the US Mint version. Here is my web page showing my original design for the Maine state quarter: [url]http://designscomputed.com/coins/sq_2003.html[/url] 7) I do not always mark the pieces I mint with "DC". If the piece is my own design, then it is either marked with: small "DC" letters (with the "C" in the shape of a crescent moon as a reference to Moonlight Mint); or a stylized "DC" inside a circle logo. When I do a fantasy-date over-strike, the date alone is a significant mark. In the case of the "1964-D" Peace Dollar over-strikes, I also have published on my blog (linked above) the specific characteristics and mint-mark double-punching which can be used to identify them. The only time I have done over-strikes that weren't a fantasy date was the 2009 "proofed" Silver Eagles. The US Mint did not issue any proof Silver Eagles that year. So I took regular non-proof 2009 Silver Eagles and over-struck them to give them a cameo proof appearance. On those coins, in addition to the proof finish, I added a "DC" mint mark to the reverse as an added identifier.[/QUOTE]
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