1964 Kennedy Half-Toning Questions

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  1. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I've had this coin for several years and as you can tell, it's starting what I call the" Black ring of death"! Instead of a nice bouquet of colors, I'm getting this black toning. Will it change colors? Should I proceed with a preservation method? I like toning but not that nasty blackness. What should I dip it in? Sorry for the blurriness. Any help appreciated. Thank You.
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  3. CoinJockey73

    CoinJockey73 Well-Known Member Dealer

    I have my own question, wise guy. What the heck is "half-toning"?
    Good morning @SensibleSal66 :hilarious::hilarious::kiss::kiss:
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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    What did you store this in ?
  5. YankeeDime

    YankeeDime non-conformant

    Hyphen abuse, lol
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  6. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I personally would leave it alone. But I suppose it could be dipped, but as always, no guarantee it won't just tone back the same way. I don't think the black ring will advance too much farther, just from my experience. I like a white coin occasionally, but I have found fighting toning tends to be a rather expensive undertaking with no guarantee. If you do decide to dip it though, I'd recommend putting it in an airtight after drying to try and stave off any future toning.
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  7. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    U For-got; The periot @ end of ur post. :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

    Tough love Dept. Thankfully, your coin is a 1964 half leading you down a path of questions and discovery worth much more than the actual coin. While the coin is not ugly, once they turn black in part (no matter what the other rainbow colors) that part of the surface has become corroded and cannot be restored to its original color.
  8. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    My same question exactly.

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, kinda. As time goes on more and more of it will continue to get black.

    Only you can decide that.

    One of the commercial coin dips. BUT - unless you know what you're doing you shouldn't even try ! And even if you do know what you're doing it really won't matter much because part of that coin, the black part, is already permanently damaged.

    Your best bet would be to sell it or trade it as is and buy another that you like as it is. And then store it properly.

    And however it was that you stored it that one, well, it wasn't stored properly so don't do it that way again. And if you have other coins stored that way then you need to change things or they could easily end up looking like that one.
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  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It's the same thing as dollar toning and quarter toning without the need of the hyphen.;)
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  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It reminds me I have to look at mine again. This is the thing, though, especially as regards silver. Think how it happened. Think, it doesn't stop the minute you see it's how you like it. It keeps going. And this is another thing, it's imperceptible. It's like sitting on your front porch watching your grass grow. In a week it's an inch higher and you didn't even notice it happening. The terminal stage for silver toning is black. There might be a way to slow it down, I don't know. You basically have to choke off its oxygen as it's a consequence of that and the chemicals floating around in the air.
  12. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    this is why i tend to shy away from those rainbow toned coins, eventually (if not preserved properly) that is the end result....also zinc errors, where in say a broadstrike or double strike, where zinc is showing, eventually coin will crumble away to zinc dust...(sigh)
  13. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Sell that to someone who likes toned coins. Then buy you a white one. You might get enough to buy 2 white ones
  14. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Supporter! Supporter

    My question is; Why would it matter? Unless there is something special about it, it's still worth the silver melt value.
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  15. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Exactly!! I'll post more Pics in say 5yrs from now if we are still here. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
    Also, @CoinJockey73 , I got it from the kid down the street anyways!!:p:hilarious::smuggrin:
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  16. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Hey Sal, you answered the question yourself. "You got it from the kid down the street." What do you expect from a kid, you're lucky it's in one piece!
  17. CoinJockey73

    CoinJockey73 Well-Known Member Dealer

    That kid's got some good stuff :hilarious::hilarious:
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  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There doesn't need to be anything special about it. There are usually two reasons, and sometimes a third, for dipping a coin. One is because you don't like the toning, after all a whole lot of toning is ugly in the eyes of a lot of people. And the second reason is that dipping a coin, at the right time, preserves the coin, saves the coin from the damage that is almost certain to happen if you allow it to tone beyond a certain point.

    The third reason is that dipping a coin can sometimes greatly increase its value. Now granted, that wouldn't happen with this coin. But there are plenty of coins where it does happen. Those would be the ones you mention that have something special about them. For all the rest, typically at least one of the first two reasons apply, and sometimes both.
  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It’s a half dollar that’s toning black. Hehe
  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Either leave as is, leave as is and sell it now or dip it just enough to remove the toning.
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    U For-got; The periot @ end of ur post. :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: Yea. Who does that. Seriously !
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