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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;jay4202472000, post: 2854574, member: 42573&quot;]Let me preface this reply by saying I am not well versed in grading mint state coins, so take it with a grain of salt. However, I will include links to support my claims, and I will post some detailed macro images of the few imperfections on this coin.&nbsp; I know a mint state coin when I see it, but the subtle differences between MS64 &amp; MS65 and MS65 &amp; MS66, I have never taken the time to really study.&nbsp; I have a really low budget for coins, and I don&#039;t really care about &quot;value&quot; so it hasn&#039;t really been important yet.</p><p><br /></p><p>When this question came up I decided to go look through the detailed images of high grade examples on PCGS to get a feel for these subtle differences.&nbsp; I know grading is subjective, but the difference in some of the MS66 coins is wild.&nbsp; Also, I only compared the coins without toning, as I am not good with toned coins either.</p><p><br /></p><p>My coin:&nbsp; 1) There are minimal radial flow lines, and all devices are very sharp.&nbsp; It appears to be a nice EDS example.&nbsp; 2) There are die polish lines everywhere so the luster explodes when the light hits it.&nbsp; 3) I know the placement of the bag marks matter, but as you will see in the first PCGS MS66 example, they didn&#039;t matter there, lol!&nbsp; 4) There are very few contact marks on Washington and the ones that are there are not distracting and tiny.&nbsp; There is a reeding hit southwest of the L in LIBERTY (it shows in the full images above), and a small rub-like imperfection in the field behind Washington&#039;s head (doesn&#039;t show but I will image it).&nbsp; 5) I only see a single distracting contact mark on the reverse, but it&#039;s a reeding hit on the eagle&#039;s chest (shows in image above but not well).&nbsp; The wing and legs have minimal, tiny dings.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS MS66 #1 - <a href="http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/83528314_62186819_max.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/83528314_62186819_max.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/83528314_62186819_max.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>If this is a normal MS66, mine will grade 66+ or 67, which I know isn&#039;t happening.&nbsp; There are only 26 1963s period that have made MS67.&nbsp; George looks like he fought a wildcat &amp; the eagle&#039;s legs and wings are pretty beat up.&nbsp; My coin is easily nicer.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS MS66 #2 - <a href="http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/82981188_60243941_max.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/82981188_60243941_max.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/82981188_60243941_max.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>There are breaks in the luster on George, a ding on his temple, and a few field dings.&nbsp; The reverse is very nice.&nbsp; I think mine is at the least comparable.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS MS66 #3 - <a href="http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/32770150_46918123_max.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/32770150_46918123_max.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/32770150_46918123_max.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Another comparable example.&nbsp; The eagle has a chest ding, so that doesn&#039;t disqualify from 66.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS MS65 - <a href="http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/84650667_69466539_max.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/84650667_69466539_max.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/84650667_69466539_max.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The surface &amp; luster on my coin most resembles this one, with the amount of polish lines, but doesn&#039;t have nearly the amount of contact marks.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am normally pessimistic about my coins, but based on the PCGS images, I see no way this coin isn&#039;t at least a 65, with a realistic chance at 66.&nbsp; If I can cherry another less attractive example to keep, I may send this one in as my first submission ever.&nbsp; If it could make 66 or better, it&#039;s a $250+ coin.&nbsp; See here for recent 66 auctions:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/146071" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/146071" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/146071</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry it is so lengthy, just wanted to explain my thought process.&nbsp; I&#039;m sure the better graders will point out my errors.&nbsp; Please share your concerns and thoughts.</p><p><br /></p><p>Reeding mark SW of L:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]678188[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Luster break behind head:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]678189[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Reeding mark eagle&#039;s chest:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]678190[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Eagle&#039;s legs &amp; wings:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]678191[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]678192[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]678194[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>FS-901 PUPs (ES &amp; Leaf tip):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]678195[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]678196[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Neck &amp; Head:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]678197[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]678198[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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