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<p>[QUOTE="Numbers, post: 640629, member: 11668"]"Wrong" is definitely the wrong word to use in this context. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie6" alt=":cool:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Small-size back plates have never been classified by currency type--there is no such thing as a "silver certificate back plate". If you go back to the '50s series, you can find $5 FRNs, SCs, and USNs all with the same back plate number. (And if you go back to the '28 and '29 series, you can add Nationals and FRBNs to the list.) But for some reason, when it comes to the 1957B $1 SCs and 1963 $1 FRNs, people have gotten the idea that this is some kind of mistake.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's probably best to reserve the term "mule" for cases in which there was actually some change to the back plates (a new location or size of the plate numbers, as your quote mentions, or a new numbering sequence in the series from 1977A to present). In 1963, no such thing happened: the back plates didn't change at all, and the back plate numbers just kept right on counting. The fact that 1957B and 1963 $1's can be found with identical back plate numbers is interesting, and I'm not criticizing anyone for wanting to collect such things, but calling them "mules" is just confusing.</p><p><br /></p><p>(By the way, it's also possible to find pairs of 1963 and 1963A $1's, or pairs of 1957A and 1957B $1's, printed with the same *face* plate. The series designation and signatures were overprinted during that era, rather than engraved in the plates, so even the face plates weren't assigned to a specific series, only to a specific type. Far fewer people are aware of the shared face plate numbers than the shared back plate numbers; this is one reason why I don't like the confusing "mule" terminology here, as it obscures what's really going on.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Numbers, post: 640629, member: 11668"]"Wrong" is definitely the wrong word to use in this context. :cool: Small-size back plates have never been classified by currency type--there is no such thing as a "silver certificate back plate". If you go back to the '50s series, you can find $5 FRNs, SCs, and USNs all with the same back plate number. (And if you go back to the '28 and '29 series, you can add Nationals and FRBNs to the list.) But for some reason, when it comes to the 1957B $1 SCs and 1963 $1 FRNs, people have gotten the idea that this is some kind of mistake. It's probably best to reserve the term "mule" for cases in which there was actually some change to the back plates (a new location or size of the plate numbers, as your quote mentions, or a new numbering sequence in the series from 1977A to present). In 1963, no such thing happened: the back plates didn't change at all, and the back plate numbers just kept right on counting. The fact that 1957B and 1963 $1's can be found with identical back plate numbers is interesting, and I'm not criticizing anyone for wanting to collect such things, but calling them "mules" is just confusing. (By the way, it's also possible to find pairs of 1963 and 1963A $1's, or pairs of 1957A and 1957B $1's, printed with the same *face* plate. The series designation and signatures were overprinted during that era, rather than engraved in the plates, so even the face plates weren't assigned to a specific series, only to a specific type. Far fewer people are aware of the shared face plate numbers than the shared back plate numbers; this is one reason why I don't like the confusing "mule" terminology here, as it obscures what's really going on.)[/QUOTE]
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