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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 7324138, member: 105098"]the more I think about it, The more I think that's what's going on, contact with sulfur and air. maybe a Kraft paper envelop or storage in a early holder with sulfur or a chloride, some chemical in the paper process.</p><p><br /></p><p>No idea what you have into this coin, or if it's worth sending for conservation and reholdering, or if it would even help to fix the issue or wouldn't uncover a bigger issue. I know "In cases where <b>PCGS</b> determines that <b>removing toning is</b> necessary and desirable and <b>will</b> not detract from the coin, it may be done".</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1961-50c-ddr-fs-803/146013" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1961-50c-ddr-fs-803/146013" rel="nofollow">https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1961-50c-ddr-fs-803/146013</a></p><p>the PR67 on this page on the right shows signs on both sides of the same spotting, although no streaking. I think they all have it, just the first two are pictured with lighting that hides it better, so I think it's fairly normal for it's age. </p><p><br /></p><p>for 1960, they seem to really go out of the way to keep them dark so as not to highlight the spotting, but it's clearly there on most of them that aren't "lit up" around the edge/rim of the coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>I'd think, and it's up to you, if you can't live with it, and unhappy, maybe return the purchase if you can and wash your hands of it rather than follow bad money with bad money.</p><p>If it was cheap enough, if the DDR is one of the more valuable ones, if it's cost effective and hard to find a better example of, then it might be worth the conservation costs, and a more modern/new holder listing the specific DDR all in all might be a win overall. </p><p><br /></p><p>What I can gather from what's visible of the slab, it's a Generation 4 or Generation 5 ANACS slab, so this was likely in the holder around 1991-1996 if it's not that small as Gen4,I think. If Gen5 it's 1996-1999 I think. I'm not too great at identifying the slabs, </p><p>either way it's been in that holder a while I think. It's 6 digit number and logo on the back is the red/orange color, not the golden. </p><p>i think at least a 20 year old slab and grading. Maybe close to 25-30 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>you can compare slab here if yoyu have interest in nailing it down:</p><p><a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Y_6cj6X2v_ZbO4NrqlRLysVeJO1IgoqnAA51ErVhLf8/edit#slide=id.g5f2b1aa021_0_62" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Y_6cj6X2v_ZbO4NrqlRLysVeJO1IgoqnAA51ErVhLf8/edit#slide=id.g5f2b1aa021_0_62" rel="nofollow">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Y_6cj6X2v_ZbO4NrqlRLysVeJO1IgoqnAA51ErVhLf8/edit#slide=id.g5f2b1aa021_0_62</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 7324138, member: 105098"]the more I think about it, The more I think that's what's going on, contact with sulfur and air. maybe a Kraft paper envelop or storage in a early holder with sulfur or a chloride, some chemical in the paper process. No idea what you have into this coin, or if it's worth sending for conservation and reholdering, or if it would even help to fix the issue or wouldn't uncover a bigger issue. I know "In cases where [B]PCGS[/B] determines that [B]removing toning is[/B] necessary and desirable and [B]will[/B] not detract from the coin, it may be done". [URL]https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1961-50c-ddr-fs-803/146013[/URL] the PR67 on this page on the right shows signs on both sides of the same spotting, although no streaking. I think they all have it, just the first two are pictured with lighting that hides it better, so I think it's fairly normal for it's age. for 1960, they seem to really go out of the way to keep them dark so as not to highlight the spotting, but it's clearly there on most of them that aren't "lit up" around the edge/rim of the coins. I'd think, and it's up to you, if you can't live with it, and unhappy, maybe return the purchase if you can and wash your hands of it rather than follow bad money with bad money. If it was cheap enough, if the DDR is one of the more valuable ones, if it's cost effective and hard to find a better example of, then it might be worth the conservation costs, and a more modern/new holder listing the specific DDR all in all might be a win overall. What I can gather from what's visible of the slab, it's a Generation 4 or Generation 5 ANACS slab, so this was likely in the holder around 1991-1996 if it's not that small as Gen4,I think. If Gen5 it's 1996-1999 I think. I'm not too great at identifying the slabs, either way it's been in that holder a while I think. It's 6 digit number and logo on the back is the red/orange color, not the golden. i think at least a 20 year old slab and grading. Maybe close to 25-30 years. you can compare slab here if yoyu have interest in nailing it down: [URL]https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Y_6cj6X2v_ZbO4NrqlRLysVeJO1IgoqnAA51ErVhLf8/edit#slide=id.g5f2b1aa021_0_62[/URL][/QUOTE]
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