1960 D

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  1. Scubalou

    Scubalou Active Member

    Got this from the same roll the '69s came out of last night. Could not match it to anything on VV or CC. Comes pretty close to Wexlers.

    1960-D 1¢ WDDO-002 Stage C:
    I concentrated on the L and R in Liberty since they seemed to be the most distinctive. The L is pretty close, the R is a little different and has an extra piece inside the loop.

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    1960-D 1¢ WDDO-008
    Description:
    The lips, beard, and throat show strong doubling: Some markers are missing - perhaps worn away? Thanks: Lou

     

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Hey Lou! I really am trying to see something here to get excited about. You may have something here. I don't know but I don't see it being as desirable as the DDO-001. Just my honest opinion. Let's see what the others have to say, okay?
    Here's another link for the 1960D DDO exmple:1960 D/D Doubled Die Obverse RPM 100 (lincolncentresource.com)
     
  4. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

  5. Scubalou

    Scubalou Active Member

    Thanks: I don't think it matches, the MM is different.
    Thanks, I don't think it's that. I went thru all on VV and CC. The wexler had a couple that seemed to have as some of the aspects of this coin. The R in liberty doesn't look like any I could find. Wexler 008 was the only one I found that had the doubling on the neck etc.
     
  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    #8 is a small date and I own one of .
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  7. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Here's an image of your date and mint mark
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    Now here's the image from coneca site
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    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

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  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Do not and I repeat do not use John wexler site . Why? He shows no mint mark placement for most of his ddo's for this year .
    Again why? Because he wants your money ...
     
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  13. Scubalou

    Scubalou Active Member

    Rick, I really appreciate your expertise in this. I'm taken aback about Wexler, I thought he was a pillar of the community.
    That aside I'm having trouble with simply classifying this as #8 - and here's why. Number 8 has these markers: A strong die dent can be found to the left of the upper I in UNITED. A small die gouge can be found to the right of the lower R in AMERICA. Mine does not have them
    #2 says: Reverse Stage A: Two small die gouges can be found between the upper I and C of AMERICA. A short die scratch runs SW from under the right end of the Memorial. Mine appears to have three die gouges between the upper I and C of AMERICA, and my die scratch under the right end of the Memorial runs SE.
    Obverse Stage A: A short die scratch runs SW from the back of the head behind the ear. Mine does not have that. A die scratch runs NE from the top of the head almost to the lower left of the W in WE. Again, mine does not have that. What mine does have are strong doubling of W&E of WE, and R of trust - all with the top portion of the doubling to the east of the bottom portion. In addition it appears that the U of TRUST has top portion of the doubling to the west of the bottom portion. Obverse Stage C: A die chip can be found in the lower R of LIBERTY. Mine appears to have something from the enclosed portion of the R to under the center of the R, with the R on top of, whatever is there. Obverse Stage B: Numerous die scratches run SSW to NNE in front of and behind the bust. A strong die scratch runs SW from the center of the underside of the chin. Mine does have these. One other thing no one mentions is a die break behind the lower portion of the ear two thirds of the way towards the back of the head. I really do appreciate all of your comments, and my eyes are getting a headache - but I don't think I can completely put my coin in either camp. My coin is quite well worn and I expect that makes it somewhat difficult to analyze.
    Thank you - so much - for taking an interest. Lou
    P.S. the zero on my coin appears to be lying on it's left side - perhaps napping - which I now intend to do. lol
     
  14. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Comment: there are a number of enthusiasts here that can help attribute a coin without the need or expense of having to send it off. Save that for new discovery finds. Otherwise, the multiple resources, especially for Lincoln Cents, are usually enough to get the job done. That's not to say that I don't appreciate the contributions of those that do this professionally.
     
  15. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Keep in mind that between Stages...there are stages. I've not looked into your coin only that I can see from your photos, it's a DDO. And Rick is very solid at identification and attribution. So, keep it on the table for further discussion and let's see what comes of it.
     
  16. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I took a look at Coppercoins. I agree with the attribution. Terrific find in great shape!!
     
  17. Scubalou

    Scubalou Active Member

    I agree Rick has been a tremendous help with this. I realize you just can't tell everything from my pics. I have the coin in hand and have multiple pics. which I can blow up extremely large with the program Celestron saves the pics in. The level of magnification on my computer vastly outshines what seems to be the best the site is able to do. This coin seems to have attributions of Wexlers #2 and #8. Thanks: Lou
     
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  18. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Markers are secondary attributes. If the doubling is confirmed the rest is superfluous to the greater extent. The details in the doubling appear to be a lock.
     
  19. Scubalou

    Scubalou Active Member

    That's very interesting. I use to post only on The Lincoln Forum, and everyone there who commented on my posts said exactly the opposite. Very confusing different points of view. Thanks: Lou
     
  20. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    The die markers are used for two secondary reasons. One, to confirm the doubled die, and second, to ascertain the die stage, early, mid or late etc.
     
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