1960 D Penny oddity

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Carlw89, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. AmishJedi

    AmishJedi Well-Known Member

    Seriously? Mr. Weinberg IS a numismatic expert. Just because he isn't telling you what you obviously want to hear, doesn't mean he is wrong. His work is listed in the Red Book, for God's sake...SMH

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  3. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Wow, thanks! I hadn't heard of that before. Fooled me!
     
  4. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I don't doubt his credentials, just his explanation.
     
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  5. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    i understand your point. however, that does not mean that a clear explanation for the anomaly is not of assistance. quite a few persons are contributers to redbook. most will tell you they have made a lot of bloopers, and encourage collectors to discuss same.
    i know somebody else that was an expert in numismatics.. he was published, an author, highly respected and sought out. he made a lot of decisions and respected opinions, and did a lot for the hobby. but, many of his opinions and research was later found incorrect, when further research was done. his name was breen.
     
  6. AmishJedi

    AmishJedi Well-Known Member

    Walter Breen was a convicted child molester and overall horrible human being whose work was discredited (in a large part) to anyone who dared be connected with a monster pedophile. I'm truly not getting your connection here.

    Regardless, I will agree to disagree with you. I'm not a huge fan (and Mr. Weinberg can surely take care of himself) of disrespect. However, I am a huge fan of the 1st Amendment which gives all of us the blessed opportunity to type our opinions on message forums like this one.
     
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  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    breen's criminal acts has not a thing to do with his numismatic contributions. if you choose to ignore his valuable work because of same, that is entirely your choice. my position is that ignoring the contributions does not improve the level of numismatic knowledge that can be gleaned from his work.

    what the heck is the first amendment involvement have to do with the thread, except that you chastised another member for exercising his first amendment opinion (and he did not state the opinion of mr. weinberg was wrong...he stated his own opinion may be wrong). it should be noted, though, which is sort of curious, that you are in favor of condemning the free speech of persons that do seek out numismatic knowledge from the breen sources. that is sort of silly, isn't it?

    i exercised my choice to state an opinion. you choose to disagree. that is fine, even though you completely did not understand the opinion and made an assumption, because..... you received another thought to ponder, and you misinterpreted the opinion.

    if you don't get the connection, to the point that you believe the constitution is in jeopardy and you need to voice attica, attica, that is also fine.

    however, it does not change anything about the contributions made by breen.

    nor does it change the fact that a teaching moment by mr. weinberg would be very helpful to the members. not one member has displayed or stated disrespect for mr. weinberg. if anything, respect has been shown by asking his advice and education on how the anomaly occurred.
     
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  8. AmishJedi

    AmishJedi Well-Known Member

    Interesting take - it truly is.

    I don't believe I "chastised" anyone; the OP stating that he/she would "wait for the experts to weigh in" was a direct jab at Mr. Weinberg. If I misinterpreted that, then I would certainly be at fault. Mountain meet molehill.

    Understanding an opinion and disagreeing with an opinion are two completely different scenarios. Because I may choose a contrary direction of thought does not mean I didn't understand it, or "get the connection". Comparing Mr. Weinberg to a sex offender seemed like a poor choice. If I misinterpreted that, then I would certainly be at fault.

    p.s. and for the record, I wholeheartedly condemn adults that choose to victimize children. That sort of behavior tends to taint my wanting to seek out advice from them, no matter how much of an expert he/she is in their respective field. Call me old fashioned. Thanks for keeping this civil.
     
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  9. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

  10. AmishJedi

    AmishJedi Well-Known Member

    https://coinweek.com/editors-choice/confronting-breen/

    Charley - don't want to keep hijacking this thread (I'm sure everyone, including you, are tiring of the debate) - but, wanting to educate myself more (after your comments) I decided to do some more research. After all, that is how we grow as educated beings on this crazy-a** planet.

    Give the link above a read (if you haven't already) - excellent article. Good luck to you.
     
  11. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Got to agree with damage, as Fred said
    If this was a die chip it would have produced hundreds, if not thousands of identical coins
    The 1960 cents were studied by so many people it would have been discovered long ago
    A collection I appraised three years ago had a box of 1960 D die chip pennies. I paid the dear lady a small premium as they are all uncirculated. Obviously no market but her departed husband at least bought some gold. She was thrilled at the value received from that
    I still have all 20 rolls
     
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  12. Rich Buck

    Rich Buck Yukon Cornelius

    Nice coin to have at any rate.
     
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  13. Badger Mint

    Badger Mint Active Member

    OK, getting back to the coin, there were a lot of die chip issues on the date and LIBERTY with the 1960 cent, and this was an experiment by the mint to see if a slashed zero in the date would alleviate the chipping issues. Incredibly rare, fewer than one known to survive. I hope this answer makes you happier than the more accurate ones.
     
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  14. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, they do a lot of experimenting down at the mint :)
     
  15. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Welcome to CT. I agree with Mountain Man, it's a keeper. Good luck
     
  16. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Good eye
     
  17. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    It is as Oldhoopster said in post 20 and Fred said several times, Damage and aging. Look at the surface of the 0 and read post 20. Damage is thousands of times more likely, than a mint striking a "slash/zero". " When you hear hoofbeats, expect cattle rather than unicorns"
     
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  18. AmishJedi

    AmishJedi Well-Known Member

    What a great quote - consider it stolen. :)

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  19. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    It's not worth it because you're wrong. The 0 took a hit and pushed the metal over. The damage smoothed out over time.
     
  20. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    He's one of the top experts in the country. What else do you want?
     
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  21. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    No.
     
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