1959 D penny..E lower than W..REALLY

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Jay Nichols, Dec 17, 2017.

  1. Jay Nichols

    Jay Nichols Member

    I know its impossible but see for yourself, the E in WE is lower than the W or I guess you could argue the W is higher...still. Even my new self to the hobby knows that damage to one part of a letter can make it look higher or lower but this actually does look lower. But impossible right? or am I finaly rich-ish.
    As always I truly appreciate the expertise you all share so freely.
     

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  3. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    How many did you look at so far, one? They're all like that.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    I think the E is in the correct position and the W is higher!
    Probably an effect of Die Deterioration.. nothing major
     
  5. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    yeah. here's another one

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  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Well-Known Member

    How about some images of ONE CENT ...
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's strike-doubling. Look at how chopped-off the top of the O and the diagonal of the N are in ONE. For the normal N, look at the diagonal of the N in CENT. That was the thickness of the diagonal of the N in ONE before it was mangled by the strike.
     
  8. Jay Nichols

    Jay Nichols Member

    I realize the fact that the letters are not stamped individually therefore its not actually possible for one letter to be higher or lower than another but that effect does seem to be pretty dramatic in this coin. I admit that in this case maybe I was being a bit lazy in asking here how this effect happened rather than doing the research myself and since I still dont get how it happened, I apparently need to learn some more about the coin making process..... and will.

    Can anyone recomend a web-site or book to up my game some.
     
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  9. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Find me a lincoln cent before 1969 that does not have that effect
     
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  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Just go to YouTube for that. That'll up your game on the minting process better than anything, given that game is basically in the cradle right now, (i.e., it's not going to take much). On this specific observation on the E in WE, you should've just checked out other coins, at that same level of magnification. You'd have seen, this coin ain't nothing to retire on. That, in turn, would have saved you some grief.

    There's a V.D.B. under the shoulder on that coin. Put your magnification to that area, and you'll find it. Neither is that the discovery of the ages, as all cents from 1918 on have it there. Lesson to be learned: at least compare to other coins.
     
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  11. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Normal Lincoln cent.

    Keep looking! there is good stuff just awaitin' out there!
     
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  12. Jay Nichols

    Jay Nichols Member

    thank you... what I find funny (for lack of a better word) is being new at this I come accross some prtty interesting coins that I have come to learn have no collector value. For example I have a penny that has thru circulation damage a perfect likeness of Jesus on the cross on the “T” in CENT. Another coin with some kind of die error that looks like a bullit hole in Lincolns head exactly where the wound would be, a little morbid maybe (but cool). Both coins that I wont sell (well $$$) although they dont have traditional Collectible qualities anyways. So to make a short reply longer... my favorite coins have no value but to me.
     
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  13. Jay Nichols

    Jay Nichols Member

    thank you for taking time to reply. I think when I posted this coin I wasnt clear about my question. I know that the letters were not actually lower or higher as in done by some mint error but having looked at counless coins and seen many letters that look a little higher or lower than the one next to it, I have never come across one where the effect was this dramatic. You say, I should of checked other coins that it looks like other coin other coins under the same magnification. I did and with respect... no it doesnt. my question is/was what would cause this difference that you dont even need a magnifying glass to see.
     
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  14. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    The die that has the original lettering on it undergoes a spreading after 100,000s of compresses under very high pressure. This causes the devices, lettering numbers and profiles to spread on the metallic face of the dies. Usually it spreads evenly, but sometimes the spread is off center or more exaggerated in one area due to slight differences in the press machine itself ( machine vibration, etc, ) or the thickness of the region on the coin. This may "stretch" the letters towards the rim or produce "doubling effects" on the coin.
     
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  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That's really in a margin of error, then, don't you think? I'm giving you your difference is greater than on other coins you looked at, but still, it's infinitesimal. And you're not going to get rich on infinitesimal. Doubled die fans find infinitesimal doubled dies all the time, and they have one thing in common, they're worthless.
     
  16. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Those goofy no value coins are some of my favorite. I love to name coins, here is one I found lately I named “Stick um up Abe” B53D08A0-C60F-4E9F-88C5-62979891A54A.jpeg worth=$.01
     
  17. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    That's hilarious!
     
  18. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    All that Fun for $.01
    Best deal in town!
     
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  19. Jay Nichols

    Jay Nichols Member

    thank you... that is exactly what I needed to know or learn. thanks again
     
  20. Jay Nichols

    Jay Nichols Member

    thats funny....at the risk of sounding goofy myself I got one called “Lincoln hang’n 10” which looks like Instead of Lincoln sitting in a chair he riding a surf board. heres my “Jesus penny”
     

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  21. Jay Nichols

    Jay Nichols Member

    thank you
     
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