1959 D LMC - What Am I Seeing?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Tankkiller275, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    So I figure this 1959 D LMC has some MD and DDD. In order for MD to occur, does it alter the raised portions of the coin in the same direction? If the "doubling" occurs in more than one direction does that mean it is DDD? When I reference Wexler and VV I see aspects of a doubled die that are similar to my coin but there is just so much of it it has to be MD and/or DDD, right? Not to mention, there is "doubling" on both sides of the coin, which I know is really, really rare. I also see what appears to be "tripling" in some areas.

    Here are the pictures of the obverse:
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.1a.jpg
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.1b.jpg

    I see "doubling" in the 1 and 9 in DATE but not in the 5 and 9 (as least not as much). 1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.1a.DATE.MM.jpg

    I see "doubling" to the T and Y of LIBERTY. I'm not sure if I see something subtle in the B and maybe the R. 1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.1a.LIBERTY.jpg

    I see "doubling" and maybe "tripling" to the lapel which begins in the middle and extends up to the neck. 1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.1a.Lapel.jpg

    I see "doubling" that then goes around the face, although not to the bottom of his chin. The area around the mouth on my coin looks similar to a DDO variety I referenced but in the reference it did not involve the entire face. 1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.1a.Face.jpg

    I know this is more than likely MD and/or DDD but don't want to miss anything. I'm still new at looking at coins and potential errors and this one peaked my interest. If nothing else then this coin will be saved for my own reference.

    I will post my reverse pictures as well.

    ~Rob
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    OK . Reverse pics too. I'll be here .
     
  4. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    Here are some pictures of the reverse. My ultimate question with regard to this coin beside all the "doubling/tripling" is what is going on with the lettering, such as the O in ONE and U in united?

    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.jpg
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2b.jpg

    The U in UNITED looks like it is "tripled" or has some DeLam or something... 1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.UNITED.jpg
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.STATES.jpg
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.OF.jpg

    Many of the letter in AMERICA have the same appearance to the west of the letters... 1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.AMERICA.jpg

    The O in ONE... 1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.ONE.jpg
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.CENT.jpg

    The corner of the memorial... 1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.MemCorner.jpg
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.Initials.jpg

    This coin just captured my attention compared to the other coins I have been going through...

    ~Rob
     
  5. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    I get the MD or DDD in this coin. What am I seeing in some of the lettering?

    I'd be happy if there is some doubled die action going on but I won't hold my breath. I just don't see any of the entire coin in the references... especially the other markers, such as scratches and gouges.

    ~Rob
     
  6. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    Reverse is up Sal... What do you think?

    ~Rob
     
  7. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Well-Known Member

    A lot of MD happening
     
  8. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    Yeah, I see that too... But it looks like the edges of some of the lettering is, or has, come off... Is that a bit of DeLam?
     
  9. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

  10. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    Thanks for the response Seattlite.

    Yup... Been to the site many times.

    My question is about the edges of the lettering, especially to the reverse. Most noticeable to the O in ONE and the U in UNITED, but I see the same occurrence in many of the letters in USOA...

    ~Rob
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

  12. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Looks like it maybe bounced twice, and sometimes when things shear off, it doesn't happen uniformly. I would suggest you're maybe looking too hard at the coin... keep up the fire, though!
     
  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You're seeing classic MD.
     
  14. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    Seattlite... Thanks for the response. I get if the "shearing" was to occur in one spot. There is just so much of it on the reverse of this LMC. Just wondering if this could be due to some anomaly in the planchet like a delamination or some such... I'm not looking too hard at the coin... I see what I see. I just don't see this referenced anywhere with MD. I get that this coin is not a doubled die... never considered it to be. I'm just trying to educate myself about coins and what might have happened in the striking process to cause this. Will most definitely keep as a reference coin.

    Black n blue arrow is MD, black and yellow arrow is "normal edge" and black and red arrow is what I am interested to know more about. Could too much pressure for this strike have caused this?
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.ONE.arrows.jpg
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.MemCorner.arrows.jpg
    1959 D LMC MD.DDD.Delam.2a.AMERICA.arrows.jpg

    ~Rob
     
  15. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    Thanks for the response Nut... I get what you mean about the MD aspects of this coin. What I'm seeing I haven't seen before (at least to my knowledge) in any of my searching of LMC coins. I suppose it is similar to the die chips seen in the shield cent coins. Could what I am seeing be related to die chips or some such?

    ~Rob
     
  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not related to die chips, just a worn die.
     
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  17. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    Okay. Thanks Nut.

    ~Rob
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Your welcome
     
  19. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    This ^ perfectly normal.
     
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