1958 Doubled Die Wheat Penny

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Teran, Jun 14, 2021.

  1. Teran

    Teran Active Member

    The focus is on 8 which I think is punched over 9 and the rest is history!
    And the mystery (of course not for US mint) of 1959 wheat coins could be solved. This is what I figure out, If I am wrong, please explain with my coin's facts consideration.
    Thanks in advance;
    Teran
     

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  3. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Looks like a normal 1958-D cent. The top left of the 8 took a small hit. Either a die polish line or stray mark in the lower loop.

    To paraphrase the 14th century Franciscan Friar and Philosopher, William of Ockham; the simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation
     
  4. Dug13

    Dug13 Well-Known Member

    The Razor.
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks like it took a hit.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Just simply.. No o_O
     
  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Plural? Coins?.. There is only one example in existence. There is no mystery to be solved. That 1959 Wheat was deemed a fake by top numismatic experts..

    By the way how would a 1959 Cent be overstruck in 1958? Someone at the Mint traveled back in time 1 year? Think about it.
     
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  8. Teran

    Teran Active Member

    I mentioned, "please explain with my coin's facts consideration." and it is very obvious that the coin is doubled die!
     
  9. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The only doubling is due to die deterioration doubling. John Wexler provides an excellent explanation at the following link

    http://www.doubleddie.com/144801.html

    You may want to also look at his explanation of how dies are doubled. Once you understand the process, it will be easier to determine which are "obvious" doubled dies, and which are MD and DDD

    http://www.doubleddie.com/58222.html
    http://www.doubleddie.com/58201.html
     
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  10. Teran

    Teran Active Member

    We know that sometimes, coins are struck before or after their date. And in the two last submitted pictures; the head body and tail of 9 are clearly been seen!
     
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    There are many types of coins that display doubling but they are not a true doubled die. Yours is not a true doubled die. The type of doubling that your coin has is called DDD or Die Deterioration Doubling. It’s a form of NAV or No Added Value Doubling. It’s very common.
     
  12. Teran

    Teran Active Member

    If you look at the third picture from last; the very end part of 5, proves that it is a real doubling!
     
  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’ve been collecting for over 60 years. It’s not but if you disagree then pay the fees and send it in to a TPG for grading and be sure to pay the extra for errors. Then repost to prove me incorrect.
     
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  14. 1stSgt22

    1stSgt22 Well-Known Member

    I looked three different times and didn't see a 9 behind the 8 , or any doubled die on the coin! As stated by others, it is just a normal wheat cent! Put it in a flip and keep it, or put it back in circulation and maybe I'll find it some day and keep it!!!
     
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  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    NO, you are wrong. DDD
     
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  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    What ever you want to think.

    Bye.
     
  17. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    If you have your answer, why ask?
     
  18. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

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  19. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Supporter! Supporter

    Sorry, not obvious to me.
    Still not seeing anything but slight die wear doubling. Wishing something was true doesn't make it so. Go ahead and pay the money to send it in and then maybe you will be convinced, I hope.
     
  20. Teran

    Teran Active Member

    I want to know if other people see what I see!
     
  21. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I do not see what you see, sorry.
     
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