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<p>[QUOTE="Danomite, post: 7631055, member: 109452"]Ok, here’s my thoughts FWIW. Let’s start with what we know, based solely on your pictures and provided feedback. Remember, you have the coin in hand, feel free to correct me if I’ve made an incorrect assumption.</p><p>1) This coin has a die crack, the die was cracked and the void was filled when struck:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1312744[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>2) This is a common place for die cracks, pre cuds, retained cuds, and cuds on LWCs. Here’s a similar example:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1312753[/ATTACH]</p><p>This is listed as RCD-1C - 1950- 08R.</p><p>3) Laminations are caused by impurities in the planchet and occur along horizontal lines (somewhat parallel to the coins surface).</p><p><a href="http://www.error-ref.com/?s=Lamination+" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.error-ref.com/?s=Lamination+" rel="nofollow">http://www.error-ref.com/?s=Lamination+</a></p><p>4) Pre cuds have a die crack that goes rim to rim.</p><ul> <li><a href="http://cuds-on-coins.com/contact/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://cuds-on-coins.com/contact/" rel="nofollow">CONTACT</a></li> </ul><p><font size="6"><b>Pre Cuds</b></font></p><p><font size="5"><b>A “Pre Cud” is a precursor to most collectible of all die break errors called a Cud. The Pre Cud starts out as a Rim to Rim Die Crack. When the die break starts to show lateral spread and horizontal offset it now becomes a Retained Cud. If the break separates from the die the result is a fully-fledged Cud.</b></font></p><p><a href="http://cuds-on-coins.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Rim-to-Rim-DC.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://cuds-on-coins.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Rim-to-Rim-DC.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://cuds-on-coins.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Rim-to-Rim-DC-300x300.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a></p><p><br /></p><p>Rim to Rim Die Crack “no displacement”</p><p>5) Let’s look at your coin again. It shows horizontal displacement:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1312759[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>and also vertical displacement:</p><p>See above and :</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1312761[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So I’m not 100% sure what you have. The likelihood of a lamination only at the ends of a die crack, in a known weak spot on a LWC, is not impossible but is probably unlikely. A lamination at the end of a die crack with horizontal movement (without obvious indicators, fold, wrinkles, etc...) is even more unlikely. The ends of the crack connecting to the rim looking sharp are most likely vertical movement. I think your coin is either a pre cud or retained cud. JMHO[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Danomite, post: 7631055, member: 109452"]Ok, here’s my thoughts FWIW. Let’s start with what we know, based solely on your pictures and provided feedback. Remember, you have the coin in hand, feel free to correct me if I’ve made an incorrect assumption. 1) This coin has a die crack, the die was cracked and the void was filled when struck: [ATTACH=full]1312744[/ATTACH] 2) This is a common place for die cracks, pre cuds, retained cuds, and cuds on LWCs. Here’s a similar example: [ATTACH=full]1312753[/ATTACH] This is listed as RCD-1C - 1950- 08R. 3) Laminations are caused by impurities in the planchet and occur along horizontal lines (somewhat parallel to the coins surface). [URL]http://www.error-ref.com/?s=Lamination+[/URL] 4) Pre cuds have a die crack that goes rim to rim. [LIST] [*][URL='http://cuds-on-coins.com/contact/']CONTACT[/URL] [/LIST] [SIZE=6][B]Pre Cuds[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][B]A “Pre Cud” is a precursor to most collectible of all die break errors called a Cud. The Pre Cud starts out as a Rim to Rim Die Crack. When the die break starts to show lateral spread and horizontal offset it now becomes a Retained Cud. If the break separates from the die the result is a fully-fledged Cud.[/B][/SIZE] [URL='http://cuds-on-coins.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Rim-to-Rim-DC.jpg'][IMG]http://cuds-on-coins.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Rim-to-Rim-DC-300x300.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Rim to Rim Die Crack “no displacement” 5) Let’s look at your coin again. It shows horizontal displacement: [ATTACH=full]1312759[/ATTACH] and also vertical displacement: See above and : [ATTACH=full]1312761[/ATTACH] So I’m not 100% sure what you have. The likelihood of a lamination only at the ends of a die crack, in a known weak spot on a LWC, is not impossible but is probably unlikely. A lamination at the end of a die crack with horizontal movement (without obvious indicators, fold, wrinkles, etc...) is even more unlikely. The ends of the crack connecting to the rim looking sharp are most likely vertical movement. I think your coin is either a pre cud or retained cud. JMHO[/QUOTE]
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