1955 Wheaty Error (D Over Date)

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  1. dalau

    dalau New Member

    also, are there double P errors? if so, how much do they make the coin worth?
    thanks
     
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  3. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    A D/D means that it is a RPM....it means that the mintmark was re-punched again into the die....sometimes it takes alot of looking to see it.

    Speedy
     
  4. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Value of errors?????????? That is a tough one. There is no actual real guaranteed prices on error coins. Few coin books, magazines, coinnewsletters or even web sites list all the types of error coins. You must remember that if any listing did exist it would be into the many millions and milllions of listings. Again, check out the coppercoins.com web site. I've got one of his books and there are errors listed for almost every year and mint that the Lincoln Cent was ever produced and he hasn't touched on the entire possibilities. I go to about 2 or more coin shows a month and also visit several dealers in coins. There are a never ending increase in the errors being shown for sale. They are for all denominations, all mints, all types and the list keeps on growing. Due to the massive amount of possibilities of errors, it is up to the dealer and buyer of each one what they may be worth.
    Many error coins are worth very little and only to an error collector. Other error coins that have made it into the Red Book hall of fame have sky rocketed to absord values. For instance the famous 1955DD Lincoln has jumped up in value to the worst condition possible to about $1,000+ at the last show I was at Sunday. The ever growing popular 1972DD is also climbing the ladder of success at near the $600 mark for just a XF. The one that gets me is the 95DD is now going for over $100.
    The offsets that used to be just a conversation piece are now into the $ ranges for the slightest offset at shows. The quantity of shows in an area, the amount of dealers there, the amount of local coin dealers, the cost of a table at the show, the quantity of buyers that visit a coin show all contribute to the prices of all coins and the error coiins are still catching on as a hobby.
    Back to your coin though, again I suggest you go to the expert in Lincolns at coppercoins.com and check with him. However, it still is a great looking error coin regarless of the value.
     
  5. dalau

    dalau New Member

    wow, i just googled taht 1955DD for the first time and I'm impressed. That truley is a nice error.
     
  6. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    I 100% agree. I've attached a better picture. I compared it to other pennies and I clearly see LIBERTY written thicker, so I agree about doubling.:D
     

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  7. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    It's a 1955-S, and the D is an error over the 5. I don't know where it was originally minted, but it's probably done in San Fransisco correctly first, and then mistakenly done in Denver. That's my prediction, but you never know what's happened unless you've watched it! :D
     
  8. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Uh.....this photo isn't any clearer than the first one....we need a really clear photo.
    You coin might be manchine doubleing....

    Speedy
     
  9. CoinKid52

    CoinKid52 Senior Member

    I don't know much about doubling, can I get some info please?
     
  10. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    And just how do you believe a San Francisco cent would get into the planchet hoppers in Denver?

    There is a known explanation for the extremely rare situation where a coin actually has two different mint marks. An extra mark has been punched into the die before coins are struck from it.

    When you get a little older you'll learn about a concept in philosophy called "Occam's Razor". It's the principal that when there are multiple possible explanations for an unusual event, the simplest is probably the correct one.

    In this instance, there are two possible explanations:
    • The date has a tiny blob of extra metal, resulting from any one of several possible events during the striking of the coin - a quite common form of defect or "error"; or
    • A coin struck in San Francisco was transported hundreds of miles to Denver; the coin presses were stopped so that this cent could be precisely oriented in a die allowing another impression to be made almost exactly on top of the original one, except for having the mintmark about 2mm out of place; and that die was apparently pulled from service immediately after this event, since other Denver coins with their mintmark superimposed on a digit of the date are not known to exist?
    Let's get real here.
     
  11. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    That is something I always wondered about. Now what we should all do is to contact the writters of books such as the Red Book or Looking Through Lincolns and tell them of their misinterpretations of coins. For instance the great error in the Red Book on page 117 for instance where they say 44D over S or 46 S over D. There are similar errors in many other coin books and we should all notify them of their errors. Can't wait to contact Chuck at coppercoins.com about statements such as on page 126 of edition 1 saying D over S.
    Everyone knows the Mint wouldn't do anything that didn't make sense.
     
  12. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Is that a joke?....why doesn't a D over S make "cents"?

    Speedy
     
  13. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Is that a joke?....why doesn't a D over S make "cents"?


    Now that is something I wish I would have said.
     
  14. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    For many years working dies were produced without mintmarks, and after a particular die was designated for a mint other than Philadelphia, the mark was put on the die by hand, using a hammer and punch. A error of the "X over y" type occured when a die had been punched for one mint and when it was decided to use it at a different mint the new punch was applied over the old one.

    The same principle explains RPMs, which resulted when the punch moved slightly between multiple hammer blows, or was applied a second time and didn't align perfectly.

    Coins having X/Ys or RPMs were struck that way in the first instance, not struck, ejected, reinserted in the die, and struck again.
     
  15. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Thanks for the technical reasoning behind such errors. Since that is the actual explanation it should satisfy people that think coins are shipped from one end of the coutry to the other just to have the mint mark overwritten.
     
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