The obverse photos show clearly that it is the same coin. The reverse not so much. After working with the photos and the new photos some of the problem spots on the obverse I was seeing may not be a problem. Better photos are needed.
The problems I was seeing with the OP's original photo were..... The highlighted lines on OD of GOD appeared to be on top of the main design rather than behind it. The highlighted line in WE appeared to be a straight thin cut and on a genuine one it is a little wider at the bottom and tappers to the top. Many of the counterfeits have a thin cut line here. The bowtie looked tripled rather than doubled. The last 5 appeared to have too tight of a curl in the lower loop. The ear hole appeared too large. In the new photos things look a bit different. The areas of the O & D now appear behind the main design as they should. It's hard to see but the space between the WE appears it may be slightly wider at the bottom as it should be. The bowtie appears doubled rather than tripled. The 5 appears like it might be PMD and lighting that made the curl appear too tight. The ear hole still appears kinda funky but may be grease fill or some other problem. Better photos would be needed. Some of the other details still look off but could easily be the photo quality. The marks on the reverse may have been something on the coin that fell off or was brushed off by PCGS and lighting & poor photos made it look like part of the coin. The OP confirmed it was on the coin. The marks on the reverse would have nothing to do with authenticity they only raised questions confirming it is the same coin. I am only trying to help the OP understand how bad photos can make things appear wrong and that is what I was seeing and maybe what others were seeing. If you give us photos that make it appear to have problems we are going to say it's a problem coin. At this point I am leaning more & more to the genuine side and that I was wrong about the authenticity. Better photos and a better attitude would be appreciated from the OP. You have to help us to help you. Still not sure how it made it through with the green stuff on it but congrats.
The OP images were not good; always difficult to be 100% sure of authenticity on images alone unless it is a no-brainer. I shared the original images to some of the foremost counterfeit folks and the consensus from the images alone was it is not good. PCGS's opinion is just 1; I am building a collection of counterfeits in their and the other top TPG's genuine holders as authentic... Interesting post- not sure what the OP's ulterior motives were.
Well this was fun to see Never saw the entire slab... Maybe not so good to post your address and name in a PDF... On that note, maybe a mod wants to delete that PDF... EDITED - The Cert # checks out fine on PCGS. It's AU Brown but unfortunately no images. So I can't verify that it's the OP's same coin, aside from an authentic looking PCGS invoice that is. Also, I just received a crossover I sent into PCGS (express service) and it was basically the same price as the OP's posted invoice...it took just under 3 weeks. So I can verify that is pretty accurate in fact.
Just saw this thread, both the raw and slabbed coins are definitely the same. I still don't like it. There is somethings that just don't match up. The 55's, RTY of liberty. At a grade of AU55 the coins just doesn't seem to have the authentic copper Lincoln look.
Ok who are you talking to because my notifications say you quoted me. I don't know what you are talking about posting a PDF with my name and address and if I did I need to figure out why it happened.
I'm referring to the PDF the OP attached in post #33, there's a name and address in that supposed PCGS invoice. Not sure why it says I quoted you...you can see in my post above I didn't quote anyone.
No its how the copy of the image turned out...I had 10 of these the images were copied off a 8x10 photo. Thus the look . I sold all of these years ago...maked some good money on these. Look up the slab numbers I believe that it was 10 sent in
Interesting, I have a full bag labeled poor man’s DDO, going to have to dig it out and take another look.