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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Hobo, post: 1146887, member: 11521&quot;]To me a &quot;complete break&quot; means rim to rim. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>A die that has broken rim-to-rim but stikes a coin with the broken piece retained in place so that the broken piece of the die strikes up the design on the coin (maybe weakly, maybe fairly strongly) produces a retained cud (that includes the rim).</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>A die that has broken rim-to-rim and the broken piece has fallen away (or otherwise is incapable of striking up a coin) produces a cud (that includes the rim).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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