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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;johnmilton, post: 3499978, member: 101855&quot;]I was not aware that there were issues with original fake outside envelopes for the 1955 - 64 Proof sets. I got out my sets and looked them over. I bought all of these sets in the 1970s and &#039;80s, nothing later. I made the following observations:</p><p><br /></p><p>My 1955 flat pack set envelope opens at the top, but my 1956 set opens at the side. I have seen them come both ways. Also I have seen 1955 sets with and without the foil mint disk in the flat pack. The sets without it have an empty pocket.</p><p><br /></p><p>My 1958 set has &quot;P.C.&quot; printed on the envelope, and the date &quot;1958&quot; is rubber stamped in small blue letters. It was stamped crooked and away from the &quot;PC.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>I have a 1961 set in the original envelope where the buyer bought only one set. An address lebel was pasted over the front of the envelope and the envelope was sealed, of course. I believe that if you ordered multiple sets, the Proof set envelopes inside were not sealed.</p><p><br /></p><p>Back in the 1960s there were stupid (in my opinion) invester/speculator types who made a big deal out of never opened sealed envelope Proof sets. These guys actually thought the sets were better if they were sealed, and they never looked at them. I have read that crooks caught on to this. They steamed opened the envelopes or took out the coins if they were not sealed and replaced them with sheets of zinc so that the sealed envelope weighed the same.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve heard that they did the same thing with sealed box sets. They took out the coins, replaced them with nuts and bolts that weighed the same and resealed the boxes. There are even reproductions of the 1950 to mid 1955 Proof set boxes. I have one of those.</p><p><br /></p><p>The bottom line is I don&#039;t think that you really have a problem with counerfeit Proof set envelopes. It&#039;s not somthing I have seen in my time as a collector.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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