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<p>[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 3055285, member: 15199"]It is a reaction to the copper. Some are of the opinion that it must be CuO deposits, as that is a dark black compound. Others claim it is a sulfuration of the copper surface to CuS ( also a black material). If you have some chemistry background, read the wikipedia articles on these 2 compounds and then try this article , which is about as close to working with the surface of a copper coin ( silver would be similar in the process) but they used a thin film material to isolate results better.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijp/2009/304308/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijp/2009/304308/" rel="nofollow">https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijp/2009/304308/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The result part here is interesting:</p><p><i>During formation of the layer on the surface of polycaproamide, all processes proceed in an open medium; therefore, <span style="color: #ff0000">it is not possible to avoid ambient effects. Since the surface of this layer is active, it adsorbs oxygen, water, and other contaminants</span></i><span style="color: #ff0000">.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>substitute 'coin surface ' for polycaproamide' and you see that the reactive surface can adsorb things known to cause environmental damage to coins. They uses XRF and XPS to analyze the surface compounds. The bonding ( being partially metallic bonding ( Cu), and partially covalent with the sulfur and oxygen involved , they get ratios of Cu<font size="2">1.9375<font size="5">S rather the Cu<font size="3">2<font size="5">S we see most in chemistry. These ratios are found in some minerals that contaminate copper ore. </font></font></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="2"><font size="5"><font size="3"><font size="5">I think at this point that sulfuration of the copper surface occurs and then interact on environmental factors to cause black spots, which could be CuS alone , CuO, or combination. Certainly not carbon. I would hope others contribute, as this has been an argument for decades. Jim</font></font></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 3055285, member: 15199"]It is a reaction to the copper. Some are of the opinion that it must be CuO deposits, as that is a dark black compound. Others claim it is a sulfuration of the copper surface to CuS ( also a black material). If you have some chemistry background, read the wikipedia articles on these 2 compounds and then try this article , which is about as close to working with the surface of a copper coin ( silver would be similar in the process) but they used a thin film material to isolate results better. [url]https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijp/2009/304308/[/url] The result part here is interesting: [I]During formation of the layer on the surface of polycaproamide, all processes proceed in an open medium; therefore, [COLOR=#ff0000]it is not possible to avoid ambient effects. Since the surface of this layer is active, it adsorbs oxygen, water, and other contaminants[/COLOR][/I][COLOR=#ff0000].[/COLOR] substitute 'coin surface ' for polycaproamide' and you see that the reactive surface can adsorb things known to cause environmental damage to coins. They uses XRF and XPS to analyze the surface compounds. The bonding ( being partially metallic bonding ( Cu), and partially covalent with the sulfur and oxygen involved , they get ratios of Cu[SIZE=2]1.9375[SIZE=5]S rather the Cu[SIZE=3]2[SIZE=5]S we see most in chemistry. These ratios are found in some minerals that contaminate copper ore. [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][SIZE=5][SIZE=3][SIZE=5]I think at this point that sulfuration of the copper surface occurs and then interact on environmental factors to cause black spots, which could be CuS alone , CuO, or combination. Certainly not carbon. I would hope others contribute, as this has been an argument for decades. Jim[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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