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<p>[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 554045, member: 4350"]Hi,</p><p><br /></p><p>No Problemo<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I kinda figured that was the case<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think what they were explaining could be a book so I'll try to encapsulate it a little bit.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is going to be very general with a lot of steps left out.</p><p><br /></p><p>Things called hubs, that look like coins on the end of a chunk of steel are used to make dies. In 1909 (one or two exceptions in 1909 on a gold coin, for example) or so all hubs had full dates on them. That means that when a die is made, the full date is on the die right from the very beginning. They didn't add single digits to a die.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1943/1942 P nickel and the 1942/1941 P and D dimes, for example were not instances where a single number was punched in over another single number. They were instances where two completely different dated hubs were used to create dies. They are technically doubled dies with full dates and details involved, one on top of another.</p><p><br /></p><p>Because the process uses full dates, there would have to be an instance where a 1934 hub would have to be used in conjunction with a 1944 hub to produce what you think you have. In an abbreviated form, leaving out a ton of detail, it just doesn't happen that way.</p><p><br /></p><p>Therefore there is no way to have a 3 under the 4. It's not possible.</p><p><br /></p><p>What is possible is damage that causes our eyes to think that we are really looking at something else. It happens all the time. A classic example would be 1940 cents that have been damaged by coin rolling and counting machines that damaged the 0 making the thing look like a 1941 over a 1940. It doesn't exist although we can easily imagine it to be the case when we see a coin with a damaged digit. </p><p><br /></p><p>As I said, I left out a ton of detail pertaining to master hubs, master dies, working hubs, working dies and more but this gives you the general gyst of the thing<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I hope this helps.</p><p><br /></p><p>have Fun,</p><p>Bill</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Have Fun,</p><p>Bill[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 554045, member: 4350"]Hi, No Problemo:-) I kinda figured that was the case:-) I think what they were explaining could be a book so I'll try to encapsulate it a little bit. This is going to be very general with a lot of steps left out. Things called hubs, that look like coins on the end of a chunk of steel are used to make dies. In 1909 (one or two exceptions in 1909 on a gold coin, for example) or so all hubs had full dates on them. That means that when a die is made, the full date is on the die right from the very beginning. They didn't add single digits to a die. The 1943/1942 P nickel and the 1942/1941 P and D dimes, for example were not instances where a single number was punched in over another single number. They were instances where two completely different dated hubs were used to create dies. They are technically doubled dies with full dates and details involved, one on top of another. Because the process uses full dates, there would have to be an instance where a 1934 hub would have to be used in conjunction with a 1944 hub to produce what you think you have. In an abbreviated form, leaving out a ton of detail, it just doesn't happen that way. Therefore there is no way to have a 3 under the 4. It's not possible. What is possible is damage that causes our eyes to think that we are really looking at something else. It happens all the time. A classic example would be 1940 cents that have been damaged by coin rolling and counting machines that damaged the 0 making the thing look like a 1941 over a 1940. It doesn't exist although we can easily imagine it to be the case when we see a coin with a damaged digit. As I said, I left out a ton of detail pertaining to master hubs, master dies, working hubs, working dies and more but this gives you the general gyst of the thing:-) I hope this helps. have Fun, Bill Have Fun, Bill[/QUOTE]
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