1943 steel cent strike through error

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Avery G., Nov 14, 2019.

  1. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    Until someone looks at it in person it's neither here nor there. It is NOT a scratch. Thanks! A scratch over a period of 40 to 50 years would definitely be rusted and not silver in color. You guys have your opinion and I have the coin. Thanks again!
     
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  3. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Late to chime in, but those are scratches,
    and nothing more.
     
  4. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I will have it looked at. Thanks!
     
  5. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    I'm on the team that says it's a scratch. What I notice is, on the mouth for example, the "scratch" goes from lip to lip but not in the deeper area of the actual mouth. That to me looks like something scrapped across the surface of the coin only.
     
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  6. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    In total agreement that an old scratch would have the same toning as the coin. HOWEVER it's newer, not 50 years old.

    I've seen some on high grade coins and beautiful bust coins that will make you cry. Most other experienced members on here can cite similar stories. Hang around the hobby long enough and you'll see lots of staple scratches

    Some things to think about when you show it to others.
    * How can a strike through skip the low points on the portrait? These would be the high points on the die
    * If it's a strike through, why didn't it tone like the rest of the coin?
    * If it's a retained strike through, why is it slightly recessed and not flush with the surfaces?

    If you logically think through these things, it will help you learn and understand the minting nonconformances that cause errors.

    Hopefully I haven't wasted too much time trying to help you learn. You received responses from a number of extremely knowledgeable error specialists. It's like getting an MIT Theoretical Physics professor to help you with your algebra homework. Hard to get better feedback than that.

    Best of luck moving forward. Maybe you'll find others who you feel are more knowledgeable and won't need to rely on the CT members
     
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  7. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    On this coin, I won't be satisfied until it is viewed by a local expert. If he says the same as you guys I will except it. Maybe he or she can shed some light on it having seen it in person. No disrespect, but I need to be sure. Thanks!
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I hear you and agree that you should have it looked at by an LCS. It's still a scratch.but it's a newer one.
     
  9. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I got this coin from my 89 year old mother who took the coin out of circulation in the late 60s to early 70s and has not touch them until I received them in 2019. The scratch had to have happened before she got the coin. Thus the scratch should have been the same tone as the rest of the coin. The spot on the cheek and the bowtie is silver looking just like the scratch. How do you know when the coin was taken out of circulation.
     
  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    She must have protected it.
     
  11. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    She just put them away and literally forgot where she had put them. We searched for a couple of hours before finding them. Some were in a plastic bag and placed in a box with a lot more coins.
     
  12. Mike185

    Mike185 Well-Known Member

    @Avery G. I want to start out to say that you can pick out anyone of these members and they will have more knowledge of coins then you or I combined. It seem to me that you already have all the knowledge you need to evaluate your own coins. It also seems that you like to argue when somebody tells you something that you don’t agree on with a question you always ask. As for your history of content will provide the truth of what I trying to explain. At some point When you post something here there will not be any reply’s if you continue to argue the way you do... you can take it as a grain of salt. Easy up.. it’s a scratch!! It may have not happen yesterday but it happened!
     
  13. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I told you guys don't be offended. I don't except that. I don't take offense to what you guys are saying and in some cases it can be pretty harsh.
     
  14. Mike185

    Mike185 Well-Known Member

    Like others, not offended but 65% of your post you argue the fact.. just saying....
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I can't help but think one or two of us, maybe even three members might be wrong. I didn't go back and look at any of the other posts but I don't think the number of us that said scratch are wrong.

    I'm not even sure who said what but I just don't think that many of us are wrong. I'd you don't believe us then by all means, check it out. Just don't sent it in to a TPG as it will cost you more money than you'll ever get back.

    Talk to your mom about this coin. She may remember where and when she got it. She may even remember how it came to be scratched.
     
  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Eso es un Rasguño :wacky:.. no contiene plata :bored:
     
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  17. Avery G.

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  18. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    Well guys, I took another 1943 steel cent and put a scratch on it using a razor blade to compare with the coin in question. Take a good look and judge based on what you see. One scratch is from 2 days ago and the other, you guys tell me. I contend that it's been out of circulation for decades in my 89 year old mother's possession. The characteristics of the two are different. It's obvious that the marks were made at different moments in time. One appears embedded in the high points and the other cut through the high points. Why are these scratches so different?
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  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Scratches occur in all different shapes and sizes. You'll never recreate the original scratch.
     
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  20. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    They have the same characteristics.
     
  21. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If I have 2 identical coins I can not scratch both of them the same. There will always be differences. Just the pressure to create the scratch is uncreatable. But I can assure you that the characteristics will be the same.
     
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