1943 steel cent strike through error

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Avery G., Nov 14, 2019.

  1. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    Can someone confirm whether or not this is a strike through error on obverse and reverse? The reverse appears to have been struck through with something with copper color.
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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    Looks to be a nasty staple scratch.
     
  4. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I don't believe it's a scratch. A scratch wood have raised edges.
     
  5. Stevearino

    Stevearino Supporter! Supporter

    Sure looks like a scratch!

    Steve
     
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  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Coin metal doesn't have to be pushed up on both sides. I can clearly see coin metal pushed up.

    Chris
     
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  7. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I will have to take it to someone to look at it in hand.
     
  8. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    100% a scratch. Why? If it were a strike through, the marking would be the same color as the rest of the coin. It is not.

    Therefore, it is most definitely, beyond any reasonable doubt, a scratch.

    Please don't waste a dealer's time to ask him.
     
  9. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    A strike through would not skip over the design features.
    I think the darker color on the reverse is rust showing through from the steel core of the coin.
     
  10. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    Rust doesn't appear as copper. It is normally blackish in color. The whole coin has rust on it, but the whole coin is not copper in color. Guys I do respect your opinions! I looked at it again and that's not a scratch. I will do as I said, and have someone look at it in hand. Thanks!
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    Yeah since its such an rare date and mintage I can see why one would waste the time to do so.....!
    Not a strike through.....it's a scratch...God you got to love it..... !.
     
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  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You can lead a horse to water...….

    Chris
     
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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    This.
     
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  14. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    We will agree to disagree on this one. I know what a scratch looks like and this is not it. Chris, are we digressing? I will not always agree with you guys, so don't let it upset you. No need for insults!!
     
  15. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    Here's a little history of this coin. My 89 year old mother had this coin in her possession since the late 60s or early 70s in a jar and other containers with other coins she thought might have value or at the very least is interesting. It has been out of circulation for 40+ years. The spot on the cheek and bow tie is the same color as what you guys are calling a scratch. I suspect that it may be silver struck into this coin, which would explain why it is shiny and not rusted like the rest of the coin.
     
  16. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    @Avery G. It's a scratch. @alurid gave you the explanation in the copied post. If you look closely at your pics, you can see displaced metal at some of the points where the scratch jumped the devices.

    For new collectors reading this thread.
    This appears to be a classic example of a staple scratch. Somebody removed the coin from a 2x2 and the obv dragged across the staple. Whenever you remove a coin from a stapled 2x2, either cut through the transparent window or completely remove the staple (if it's in a flip that's stapled) before removing the coin. It's surprising how often staple scratches occur, so don't let it happen to you.
     
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  17. Stevearino

    Stevearino Supporter! Supporter

    @Avery G., I apologize just a tiny bit for hitting "Like" on the last several responses to your query. These guys DO know what they are talking about, and they only get a bit prickly when folks continue to argue against the opinions posters have asked for. And that's OK. In this case, you can agree to disagree. Because of the provenance of the coin you would like it to be a strike-through.

    But rest assured that after answering THOUSANDS of queries from years of experience (look at the numbers for the guys who have most recently posted) you'll see why a little "prickliness" will present itself.

    I hope that after you have taken it to a dealer who actually is experienced (not all are) you will post his/her opinion.

    Steve
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2019
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  18. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    Thanks steve, I sure will. I'm still looking through my mother's coins there are so many. Very old copper, silver coins and steel 1943 pennies.
     
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  19. Stevearino

    Stevearino Supporter! Supporter

    BTW @Avery G., my brother is a steam-engine fanatic and named his first son Kenneth Avery after a steam-engine named "Avery." Did you get your first name for any specific reason?

    Steve
     
  20. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I don't know the history, only that my mother liked the name. I will call her and find out.
     
  21. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks like a scratch to me! Not deep, just on the surface. A scratch is a scratch is a scratch, I can by these from one of my LCS at $.17 each. He has a small box full of them and he sells them at 6 for $1.00. I recently bought 18 cents face value for $6.00. I got several good clean sets, 1 set with a touch of rust and 2 sets of replated or reprocessed coins. All sets have all 3 mintmarks. Yours is scratched.
     
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