1943 steel cent die clash.. Need honest opinions

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  1. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yeah once they see the plating, it’s all down hill after that. My guess. Very tricky interesting coin. You woke CT up
     
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  3. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    really need better pics, perhaps is not processed?? hard to tell, on reverse it does not look it, and obverse words do seem mushy (like if plated), i would love to know what became of it, slabbed? not?/ thanks
     
  4. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yeah I’m thinking the same thing. I like when I see stuff like that. Really different you know. Has a lot of unanswered question.
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Too funny. I’m still laughing.
     
  6. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    On the reverse I see a football player. Who’s eyes are inside the C looking right. Lower I see a nose pointing right. And under the C is a chin facing right With the whole C being (the girl quarterback) Face Shield.
     
  7. Cliff Reuter

    Cliff Reuter Well-Known Member

    Here's a link to a 1943 P (#03) typical die clash from maddieclashes.com
    http://www.maddieclashes.com/tdc-1c-1943-03/

    The one in the link has more going on than the OP's coin but clearly shows the clash of the back of Lincolns neck and hair around the C (CENT).

    Wonder if it ever got sent in or what the results were???
    (@mrweaseluv )
     
  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I'll bet you say that to all the horses.
     
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  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    Did anyone notice the doubled die ? :)
     
  10. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    since it's been resurected, I'll update and say it has not as yet been sent in... didn't have the extra over the holidays, but i got a couple that need to go in (including a certain nickle i won/bought from LordM) Might just be this month with a bit of luck lol...
     
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  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    The only doubled die is the Class 6, and that one ain't it.
     
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  12. Cliff Reuter

    Cliff Reuter Well-Known Member

    Where are you seeing doubling?
    IMHO, the obv isn't clear enough and the reverse doesn't exhibit any doubling that I can see.

    I agree that the OP's coin isn't a DDO or DDR and there is at least one 1943p doubled die with an atypical clash, as listed in Maddieclashes.com, but it is a class 4 DDO (doubled eyelid).
    Maddieclashes-
    ADC-1c-1943-01 Stage B

    Variety Vista-

    1943P DDO-015 (15-O-IV)

    Doubleddie.com
    1943p WDDO-045

    ps. For those keeping track of cross-references between the sites, DD and VV didn't realize they were the same DDO variety. I noticed matching markers to both their varieties when attributing one.

    Take a minute to look at the images in the maddieclashes link and see how many clashes of the back of Lincoln's head you can see under "OF AMERICA".
     
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  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I like the clash. While it may look reprocessed we don't have the coin in hand
    which is easy to tell, when they look like they have been spray painted with silver paint. If it was plated, wouldn't that cover up or obscure the clash?
     
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  14. Cliff Reuter

    Cliff Reuter Well-Known Member

    Not usually since the plating is deposited in a fairly even layer.
    (Poorly done plating can leave uneven plating irregularities.)
     
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  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I see, I didn't know that. We agree the Class 6 is still the King, though. Just checking in on you. :)
     
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  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Well Cheech, it will immediately be deemed a details grade, all that we can try to do is send the OP down the right path.

    When has a clash ever sold for that price? Are we talking about the bidiots on ebay again?
     
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  17. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes I thought $125 sounded high, but this is not my area so I didn't want to sound even more ignorant than I am.
    How much for a nice 1943 clash?
     
  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Well, I just went and did a sold search, and I can't find anything that sold for that price unless we are talking about a VAM, a flying eagle, But, most that have sold that high are graded and valued at or relative to their TPG grade.
    Most are in the $5 to $20 range.
     
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  19. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    That number is what I thought, and my initial thought was,
    genuine or reprocessed, it will not be worth grading.
     
  20. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    yes, and i happen to be one, if you want a coin, then you buy the coin, errors have no set price, or "book" each one is a one-off, so whatever the market will bear....i think 80,000.00 for an ms-68 broadstruck 2020 error is too much, yet the dude offering it recently sold one for 40k, best offer accepted, so??? auction determines price book anyways, ebay is a legitimate auction.., but the price i quoted you was from the idiots that buy from heritage, lol about 4 sales back i bid up to 80.00 then gave up..i am also on there as well as great colelctions, wherrever idots bid, is were i am, if error coins, that is, lol
     
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  21. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Wasn't the 40K what the list was, and then he accepted a lower (best offer)?
    No one is going to over pay for something like that because even if they do then they don't pay or get their money returned. People who act dumb to buy overpriced stuff like that have an ulterior motive and no intention to pay that price. He could have a shill buying at that price which will later be returned and refunded (see if it ever comes up for sale again) in order to get other people to think his items are worth more than they really are. If you want to sell something like this, then just set a fair price and enough with all the BS that goes along with it. It's not fun and it's not good business.
     
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