I agree...there are several things about this coin that scream fake. There are bubbles, unevenly "struck" items and of course the strong doubling which has never been reported on any 1943 cent that I know of. Have you had this coin examined in hand by a professional? If not, I would take it a local dealer and have them take a look at it. There is so much more than can be seen in hand than in a photo.
Yes, thanks for all of the responses by the way, greatly appriciated, and yes i brought it to a NGC certified dealer about 15 mins from me maybe 20 mins after i posted this. The NGC website said i needed to go to one to have my coin sent in, the man told me that the doubling was unheard of but looked very good. He really wanted me to send it in, i asked about casting and modified date and he said definitely not modified date and he was quote "90% sure" that it wasnt a casting. we also checked the diameter and weight and those checked out ok, he was upset the coin was cleaned but i explained i had no intent on it. he urged me not to leave without sending it in and even offered to personally pay to send it in, but i wanted to think about it, i wouldn't want any big news or anything with my name in it (if the small chance it is real is confirmed). So im going to sit on it and examine it a little more, maybe get some more opinions.
Good luck with this coin & I hope it turns out to be real for you. BTW, after reviewing your previous posts since you joined CT it’s not surprising to learn that you are reporting a copper 1943. Hundreds have been counterfeited on both, genuine planchets and homemade planchets. Based solely upon your photos & description(s), I believe this is the case with your coin. It might be a real Lincoln copper cent that has been re-struck with counterfeit dies and cleaned to hide those details. This is just my opinion based upon your photos & description(s). If you cannot determine for certain that the coin is fake, then authentication by either ANACS, PCGS, or NGC is recommended. Please post here if you ever have it authenticated. Here are some links describing the 1943 copper cent fake coin alert- http://www.rrcoins.net/43_Cents.htm http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_value_of_a_1943_us_copper_penny Again, good luck with the cent.
oooops, You posted while I was typing. Like I said, Please post here if you ever have it authenticated.
If he were willing to send it in at his expense, I would definitely jump on it. Though it does look like a total fake, authentication would be nice.
Agreed, what do you have to lose. I still believe it's fake...but only one way to find out. Keep us updated.
And it apparenlty passed the magnet test. I have never heard of a reverse doubled die like that one. If it had existed it would have rivaled the 1955 DDO.
Imagine how much it would be worth if it is real! A copper 1943 with a double die reverse and maybe obverse too... wow!
With all of these copper 43 cents, and steel 44 cents threads going around, I am waiting for the "HONG KONG" wheat cent thread to pop up.
You can tell that's a fake. Just look at the motto on the reverse. The doubled letters are different size and font.