Well at 62 my eyes aren't as good as they were years ago. And to be honest I've never been a huge TPG fan. I'm old school. Yes I do own slabs but the ratio of raw to slabbed in my collection are probably 1000 to 1 if not more.
If you think PR65 is a low grade, I recently ran across a PF8. I want to say it was a Morgan but I can't remember.