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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;rmpsrpms, post: 7861239, member: 31773&quot;]Yes, it was absolutely necessary, and perhaps not strong enough. You must realize that many new error/variety collectors post here, and rely on the collective expertise of this and other forums to help guide them with their discoveries. Now, I also realize that there are quite a few folks who &quot;troll&quot; the forums with useless &quot;discoveries&quot;, and of course the reactions from those I listed as &quot;stupid wrong&quot; are probably appropriate for those folks. But not everyone is a troll, and not every discovery is trash, yet many folks on this forum immediately assume that any new discovery and discoverer needs to be disrespected. It is these folks I was targeting with my &quot;stupid wrong&quot; classification.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m glad you are sharing this, as it is of course perfectly correct regarding Class-1 Doubled Dies which are fully-hubbed. However, when the first hubbing of a Doubled-Die (not just Class-1) is partial, many strange things can happen. Most famous of these are the &quot;Doubled Eye&quot; and &quot;Doubled-Ear&quot; DDOs. These happen because while the hub is an exact copy (except reversed and incuse) of the final die, the blank die is not flat, but crowned such that it hits the hub first in the center, then gradually more toward the periphery as the hubbing is completed. If the first hubbing is misaligned, then the center features can show doubling, while peripheral features do not (eg Doubled Eyes and Ears). A stronger first hubbing may be deep enough to include more of the peripheral features, and this is the case with the 42P DDO showing mainly on the &quot;Y&quot;. The first hubbing was rotated (Class-1), but weak enough to only show on the &quot;Y&quot; and not farther out toward the die edge, due to the crown shape of the new, blank die.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the case of the 42P DDO, if indeed the first hubbing had been complete, the resulting die would have been of similar magnitude to the Wexler illustration.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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