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<p>[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 3223424, member: 78244"]I was merely making an aside based off your comment that overdipped coins should not be graded the same as original coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>For circulated coins, I won’t call a dipped coin a “problem” coin per se, but I certainly would not assign a value equal to that of an original coin. You can see this as well in auction results for Capped Bust Halves. So there is a correlation between surface originality and value in a particular grade, but this is not reflected in the TPGs’ assigned grades. We have seen that they do market grade circulated coins in the 1818 half dollar thread where a cleaned/scratched F/VF coin got a grade of VG-10. So I ask again, if they market grade one coin according to its value, then why do they not do it for all of them?</p><p><br /></p><p>As for my 95% statistic, my standards are those learned from people who have tought grading at the ANA summer seminar (such as Bill Fivaz) and from observing TPG-graded coins. So if a coin does not meet my standards, it therefore must not meet the standards set by the TPG and the rest of the numismatic community.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So attractive (read “colorful”) toning is the only thing (assuming no luster) that affects eye appeal? Are you so haughty in your strive for perfection that you seriously think that circulated coins have no eye appeal? When was the last time you bought a lowly circulated coin?</p><p><br /></p><p>Circulated coins certainly an have eye appeal factor. Ten times out of ten I would prefer an original XF to a blast-white overdipped XF because the former simply has better eye appeal to me.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That’s not what I am saying. I think I have very well established that I am against market-grading. I am only pointing out that the TPGs are inconsistent in how they treat unoriginal surfaces.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 3223424, member: 78244"]I was merely making an aside based off your comment that overdipped coins should not be graded the same as original coins. For circulated coins, I won’t call a dipped coin a “problem” coin per se, but I certainly would not assign a value equal to that of an original coin. You can see this as well in auction results for Capped Bust Halves. So there is a correlation between surface originality and value in a particular grade, but this is not reflected in the TPGs’ assigned grades. We have seen that they do market grade circulated coins in the 1818 half dollar thread where a cleaned/scratched F/VF coin got a grade of VG-10. So I ask again, if they market grade one coin according to its value, then why do they not do it for all of them? As for my 95% statistic, my standards are those learned from people who have tought grading at the ANA summer seminar (such as Bill Fivaz) and from observing TPG-graded coins. So if a coin does not meet my standards, it therefore must not meet the standards set by the TPG and the rest of the numismatic community. So attractive (read “colorful”) toning is the only thing (assuming no luster) that affects eye appeal? Are you so haughty in your strive for perfection that you seriously think that circulated coins have no eye appeal? When was the last time you bought a lowly circulated coin? Circulated coins certainly an have eye appeal factor. Ten times out of ten I would prefer an original XF to a blast-white overdipped XF because the former simply has better eye appeal to me. That’s not what I am saying. I think I have very well established that I am against market-grading. I am only pointing out that the TPGs are inconsistent in how they treat unoriginal surfaces.[/QUOTE]
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