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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 3223336, member: 24314&quot;]Pickin and Grinin, posted:&nbsp; &quot;I find myself in the <b>Technical side</b>. Any wear is damage to the coin. It is the subject of many a blurred grade.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie49" alt=":grumpy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; I happen to know the individual who devised the original and true &quot;Technical Grading System&quot; in the 1970&#039;s to help identify coins.&nbsp; Folks who have not had the system explained to them in a grading class have absolutely no clue how it worked.&nbsp; None of the numismatists at ANACS in CO did either; yet they adopted the word for how they were grading - similar in some respects but no cigar! <b> This is not a black spot on them. </b>IMO, the ANACS crew when the company was sold was a true &quot;brain trust&quot; for Numismatics.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, when folks start misusing long established terms such as &quot;damage&quot; to describe another well established term such as &quot;friction wear&quot; it shows the ANA has failed to educate one more collector. </p><p><br /></p><p>baseball21, posted: &quot;I could be mistaken but I believe that was just a quote from Ron Guth in a video not an actual study.&nbsp; Either way obviously there is truth to the view that having a team of three decide as they get to learn from each other and everyone has different strengths.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>That may be where I heard it but IMO, it was based on facts.&nbsp; AFAIK, our grading screen has a way to check the % agreement with the final grade, the # of coins graded each day, and other neat things.</p><p><br /></p><p>heavycam.monstervam, posted: &quot;Insider said, that coin looks more like an AU.</p><p>I disagree, the obverse looks ok but the breast feathers are completely gone, there is NO LUSTER &amp; the wreath leaves on the right side are all completely wore down &amp; blended together. There arent any distinct lines seperating the top 2 leaves from each other. If you go to photograde and scroll through, you gotta go waaaaaaaaay down to the VF grade to see that much wear. If you&#039;ll notice i did say i wasnt going to castigate PCGS for this one because of the date/ mm.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>I am truly sorry to read this.&nbsp; As I posted, the ANA has failed all of us.&nbsp; I can shoot holes in your entire post but I have a better suggestion.&nbsp; <b><i><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">Perhaps someone will post the coin in a new thread with the holder eliminated and let&#039;s have a guess the grade poll with the posters ID revealed and a requirement to back up their grade opinion with reasons.</span></i></b>&nbsp; Marks, strike, luster, amount of lost detail, eye appeal and anything else.&nbsp; I&#039;ll wait until then to vote.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; This will be fun and educational!</p><p><br /></p><p>PS I have an open mind.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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