1941 Walker with Ford counterstamp

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Evan8, Aug 19, 2016.

  1. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    So I'm not one for counterstamp coins but as a mechanic I had to have this one.

    Let's just take a moment and appreciate the packaging of this coin
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    Usually they are just thrown in an envelope but this was very neatly packed in a square capsule and stuck in a thick foam posterboard. A bit of first for me.

    Apparently this coin was stamped from a broken Ford stamp in 1963. Note the upper flourish of the F is missing. I found one site with info from Brunk talking about this counterstamp here:

    http://tokencatalog.com/token_recor...d=16299&attribution_id=28572&td_create_uid=39

    I know some of you like counterstamps and I thought this was fairly unusual. So here you are

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    If you have one of these I'd love to see it
     
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  3. cpm9ball

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    I'm not big on counterstamps, but this one has a neat provenance. Thanks for posting it.

    Chris
     
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  5. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Are they considered counterstamps? I would think this is more like a chop mark, especially since the mark doesn't appear to even have been done on behalf of Ford...
     
  6. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    You see a lot of these on eBay, Evan. For some reason I've never picked up one for my collection, though I've had ample opportunity to do so. Maybe because I'm not a car nut.:D

    Bruce
     
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  7. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Yes, they are counterstamps, North Korea. While chopmarks are technically counterstamps...a message, name, or something else applied with a medal die...chopmarks are treated differently by collectors. I have a large collection of counterstamps, but have no interest in chopmarks.

    Bruce
     
  8. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Somewhere I have a Ford counterstamped Buffalo nickel that looks like someone in a factory did it back in the day. I found it in a bank wrapped roll.
     
  9. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I did get it off eBay. It was cheap so no big deal. I have a mechanic shop and love car stuff too so I like it
     
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  10. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I was always under the impression that a counterstamp is something done by a government agency to the effect of stamping the coin with a counter usage. I thought, as a result, any non-government markings would be called chopmarks.

    Now I'm *really* confused. So, if I stamp a coin with some sort of branding, as opposed to just scratching it or otherwise vandalizing the surface, that's considered a counterstamp?
     
  11. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Yup

    Countermarked or Counterstamped just means the coin was marked. It COULD be by a government entity to confirm value, to repurpose the coin, etc. It COULD be by a 3rd party (Brasher) to certify weight and fineness. It COULD be advertising. Or it could just be an idiot with a punch and a hammer and a coin...
     
  12. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    A government stamp, for reasons stated above by Burton Strauss lll, are called countermarks by many, but the words are really interchangeable. A counterstamp or countermark are the same thing. I call them all counterstamps, while Greg Brunk, the guru of such things, calls them countermarks.

    Bruce
     
  13. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    Interesting...........
     
  14. idreamofgreenie

    idreamofgreenie Active Member

    I have a 1935 Walker counterstamp. Found in a junk silver bag bought from a person.
    Surprised there is still not certainty around the Ford stamping campaign
     
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    idreamofgreenie Active Member

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  17. idreamofgreenie

    idreamofgreenie Active Member

    Here's my Ford counterstamp
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    And a P inside of a circle with 192
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  18. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    That "P / 192" stamp is likely an inspector's stamp. Since the coin is dated 1942, it may be from a worker in a factory producing goods for the armed forces during WW ll. It's not unusual to see these types of stamps on coins.Interesting but hsrd to identify.

    Bruce
     
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