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Message:: [QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 588734, member: 16510"]You bring up an interesting point but the way I understand it  You bring up an interesting point but the way I understand it is you could even have a MS-69 without FSB's, not to likely but,,,The fully split bands came along way after most modern grading standards had been established, same for steps on Jefferson's - things do change though - the old timers used to talk about full beard for early Lincoln Cents.  Never hear that no more now do you?  By the 1920's the master hubs were already taking a beating big time.  That 1916 Proof that was on here today has a full beard though.This art is very subjected and dependent on so many factors and changes all the time - we keep trying to get "the perfect coin" or the "best strike" or "first strike" when many times we should be getting the coin that satisfies or pleases us most - the one that makes us happy, our treasure.By seeking perfection all the time we lose perspective and miss so much in life and in coins.[/QUOTE]