1936-S Mercury Dime Pick Up

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  1. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Thats the plastic

    Ruben
     
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  3. mrbrklyn

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    You've now convinced me I need to take a new photograph because under the look I think I see fully split bands and certainly no hairlines lines. I don't know where those liens came from. I saw them in the original photo and the do not show up at all under the loop.

    Ruben
     
  4. kidkayt

    kidkayt Senior Member

    1916 Fb Ms65

    I picked up this NGC MS 65 with FB a year ago. It may help as a reference...
     

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  5. craig a

    craig a Coin Hoarder

    Looks fsb to me. I'd send it in. Or you could just give it to me. LOL
     
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Here are some blowups of just the reeds:

    Top:
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    Middle:
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    Bottom:
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    And here is a blowup of what I believe was the best of the complete dime
    reverses

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    This is an excellent blowup as well
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup13.jpg

    These are links worth looking at to judge the coin:

    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup2.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup3.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup4.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup5.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup6.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup7.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup8.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup9.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup10.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup11.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup12.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup14.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup15.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup16.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup17.jpg
    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/mercury_back_blowup18.jpg

    With regard to the lines on the reverse, I don't know what to think. One
    reason I don't collect many dimes (or the 1/8th ounce gold) is because their
    just too darn small. These lines on the photo do not show up to the naked
    eye under the magnifying glass at first look or even at second or third
    examination. If you tilt the coin at a specific extreme angle to can see them
    amlost exclusively on the background. I just don't know enough about
    metalology to make a judgement about it. They are not on the front.
    I'm pretty fustrated with them.


    OK - it took about 3 hours to do this and write this up, I hope someone
    finds it useful and enjoyable.

    Ruben:desk:
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The middle band is the one that stops it from qualifying for FSB.
     
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Looking at the photo's I was thinking that, but I could swear that under the glass you can see a complete line. That can't be a flick of the light though, it clearly looks like a break here

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  9. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    BTW - I'm wondering how much of a value difference there is do to that 1/10 mm of metal?

    Ruben
     
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    mrbrklyn New Member

  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You can't really compare the two Ruben, that was an MS67 FSB, your's would be an MS65 in my opinion. That's comparing a $50 coin to a $1200 coin. And that would be if your coin was FSB - but it is not.
     
  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    I was joking except for 2 things. That coin's photo seems to have the same kind of middle band spot in almost the same location.

    Would you grade that coin MS67? I trust your grading more than the slab ;) As usually, I fail to see the finer points that would make that particular coin an MS67 where as there
    was another coin which was clearly supior in luster than seemingly that one or mine.

    BTW _ consider it a bargain because I don't thing there is anything between those two coins which would cause me to drop an extra 1150 bucks. That would require another kind of connoisseur. I'm also looking at other MS65's FB and not FB and this coin, IMO has less defects than some of those. One has a huge nick in
    the torch.


    Ruben
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Earlier on you made a comment about the size of the coin being so small that that was partly why you didn't care for them much. Well, that same small size also plays a large part when it comes to grading them. Precisely because they are so small, any tiny imperfection has a large impact. Marks of the same size on a dollar coin wouldn't matter at all, but on a dime they detract from the grade.

    That being said, closely compare pics of your coin to the one in the link you provided. Your coin has some small blemishes on the obverse. On the reverse there are some small dings in the rim and some minor die cracks. Both sides of the coin show evidence of heavy die polishing. Add this together to a weaker strike and slightly less mint luster ( which I attribute to your coin being dipped ) and you have the difference in grade between the two coins.

    Yes the differences are subtle. But grading mint state coins requires subtlety which is why many collectors say they can't tell the difference.
     
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