1936 Dot penny?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Keith Iwan Bowles, Dec 21, 2020.

  1. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Look at his image above in post# 39 and then look at his image in post # 2 which I have included below. The "dot" is in two distinctly different places or he has imaged two different coins. Alternatively one of the images is "borrowed" from somewhere else
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  3. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    From what I understand, the 1936 Dot cents were struck as both business strikes and specimen strikes. However, due to the royal transition following the death of George V and Edward VIII's abdication, the Royal Canadian Mint actually struck the dot cents in 1937 as a stopgap measure since there were no dies depicting George VI. The RCM reported that 678,823 dot cents were struck; nonetheless, it would seem that all of the business strikes were melted down by the RCM. As a result, all of the known examples of the dot cent are specimen strikes.
     
  4. Ok ill try too do what you said.thanks for the Tip.
     
  5. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I agree: placement does not look optimal. Further, I cant be certain that's a 'dot' or a spot. As noted above by one of our fellow enthusiasts, it could be pareidolia. But either a dot or a spot...placement appears further west and perhaps a bit closer to the date devices.

    What you are saying here is mighty familiar sounding. I seem to have read something similar when I was trying to fill out the last few open spots in my Canadian cent collection.

    Thanks Keith. It's worth getting this to a point where you are completely satisfied with the explanation of the coin you have. Everyone here is doing their best to help you get to that comfortable point...and we are occasionally wrong. The important thing here is to take in everything folks are saying so you can build your knowledge/skills for future events. All good on my end. Looking ahead to better photos so we can remove any lingering doubt...or be humbly surprised.
     
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  6. I see what you're talking about and I noticed that too. The pic you guys are talking about with the. Far to the left I acknowledged. But the newer pics I posted of the. Showing distinctively where it should be is the one I'm talking about as being the correct Dot.
     
  7. I agree I appreciate that.
     
  8. Hard to borrow whats in my possession. No one said there wasn't more than one Dot.
     
  9. Actually to be honest with you if you ask me I see three of them.2 of them are to the right of the one that's marked there Quite smaller.
     
  10. The one in the middle is the one that's always being brought up in the pictures.unlike the other two.
     
  11. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Less is more. Take your photo with the coin in the field of view rather than zooming into the space between devices. The dot is large enough to be readily seen in a full picture of the coin. We'll be able to tell from a more distant shot.
     
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  12. Will do. I'm working with it 13 megapixel camera and I turned using a Snap-on magnifying glass for the phone but even so it's hard to find the in-between shot. So I'll just do my best at what you suggested and I will post the pictures thank you.
     
  13. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Here's a setup that might give you some thoughts - Simple iPhone 5 on weighted can (filled with half dollars) set at optimal distance to limit the amount of zoom needed to fill the viewer with the cent. IMG_3681.JPG
     
  14. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    @Keith Iwan Bowles enough nonsense. If you really think you have the 4th known 1936 dot, its time to quit screwing around on here and do something. The only way to prove it is to send it in for authentication.

    You've been given opinions from very knowledgeable numismatists that have said the dot doesn't line up and you just have a damaged coin. More pictures aren't going to help. If you disagree with the opinions here, send it for authentication. Even if we all agreed with you, it would still need to be authenticated. We're just trying to save you from an expensive lesson, but ultimately the decision is yours
     
  15. Yes well I do plan on going to LA to handle that FYI next week.But until then Nonsense is what it will be.O and nice too meet you Debbie Downer.
     
  16. Screenshot_20210108-142840.jpg Screenshot_20210108-142840.jpg 20210108_142252~2.jpg these are the best pics i can bring up.
     
  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    This is not a dot cent. You have done your best to over pixelate the photos, photo at different angles, even add arrows. The dot is just not there. Put it in a 2x2 flip. Go look at thousands of other coins. Take the time to educate yourself with books and forums like this one. Send Boob tube packing. 99.9% of the videos on there are junk.
    You will come back to this coin and say yeah they were right, what was I thinking.
     
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  18. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Yes, I stand with my first assessment. Not a dot cent.

    Keith - Most of us got more out of the full obverse photo than those super magnified photos. Once a photo pixelates like that...useless to me for the most part. Keep in mind that sometimes 'less-is-more'. Use the Goldilocks approach...go for just right. For the record, first timers traditionally over magnify everything (me included) but learn to back off eventually and find that sweet spot with your phone's camera or other apparatus.

    For the record, it would have been very cool if you struck gold here!! It doesn't happen often, but sometimes we are amazed at a find. In the past 10 years, I've seen folks finding high grade 1969 S DDO and another found a 1955 DDO. Yet another found one of the harder to find 1972 DDOs...so it can happen. The community here will go at length to help ensure that you aren't overlooking anything, and most are wishful for another's success. So hopefully you understand that while we might not have the opinion you hope to hear, we are advocating for you. And of course, you can pursue other channels if you need absolute clarity on what you have. And we'd be happy to be wrong. Good luck!
     
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