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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 169808, member: 112&quot;]Not to the coin Frank, to the die. Only a raised area on a die can produce an incuse image on a coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I&#039;ve been doing some more thinking on this trying to understand what you have been explaining. Let me see if I understand you correctly. As you know, I&#039;m not an error or variety person and don&#039;t know a lot about them. But I am always willing to learn.</p><p><br /></p><p>You are saying that when two dies come together with no planchet between them - ( and for the sake of understanding I&#039;m going to use one of Becky&#039;s pictures as an example, in this case the one with the E ) - that what happens is this. The E on die #1 landed on a flat field area of the opposite die #2. Now since the E is incuse on die #1, and the field area on die #2 is flat, some of the metal on die #2 was forced into the incuse area of E on die #1 by the force of the blow. This then created a raised area in the shape of the E on die #2. Then on any coins struck afterwards by these dies there will be an incuse clash mark of the E. </p><p><br /></p><p>Is this correct so far ? If so, I can pretty much understand that, and that would explain what you are saying, that clash marks are incuse not raised. Now here&#039;s where I get lost.</p><p><br /></p><p>The next thing to occur would be that there is second die clash, the counter clash. But now we have die #2 with a raised E on it that is not supposed to be there. But for that raised E clash mark on die #2 to produce a raised E on a coin, ( such as the one on Becky&#039;s picture ), the E has to be changed - it has to become incuse on die #2. </p><p><br /></p><p>How does that happen ?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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