1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle Graded MS65 (no holder !)

Only after it was re-graded as an MS64+.....

 

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There's something phony about this whole thing.

 

It can raise the market grade as much as eye appeal can. It's in the ANA market grading standards, the last I recall.

 

YUP!

 

I just can't believe the MS65 grade. I hit my leg with a chain saw once (actually twice but once was on the ankle) and my leg looked like hers. That's just wrong.

Steve

 

What's phony about it ?

Special coin, special treatment. As the article mentions, the Walton Liberty Nickel got the same treatment and I am sure that other high-end coins would also probably get graded only and not slabbed if their owners so desired.

 

That's the whole idea that keeps getting missed by the critics. The government is encouraging this kind of private sector "philanthropy" within a statutory framework to take the burden off the public sector. These private entities want to run a con game with these, go ahead, but they do so at their peril.

 

And that's good enough for you...

They can't certify it, and they know they can't. This is bullshit so they could sell it to some sap. PCGS gets behind this is the Farouk specimen they incur liability if they're proven wrong, isn't that right? That's why they won't go on this, not now, not ever.

 

Hey, if this IS or ISN'T the "Farouk Coin" it has nothing to do with the grade it merits.

I'm staying on the grade. As for whether or not this is the "Farouk Coin" or another one in a book or not, we can debate that too.

All I know is this is a 1933 Saint and it got a grade of MS65.

 

There's a limit to how much you can donate to a 501(c)-3 foundation based on income and other factors.

 

Duh. They've got to play by the rules. When they don't, they risk it. There's no need to get into that...

 

I know that's all you know. But there are others who are beyond you realizing if this isn't the Farouk coin something isn't right about it, whatever the grade it gets. PCGS is a cop-out, there, as they won't stand behind it, only behind a grade, just like any 13-year-old collector in any of these coin forums could do just as well.

 

Progeny is what makes this broken-kneed coin market grade MS65 and yet PCGS is unwilling to stand behind the progeny. Figure that one out...

 

I agree and would question the grade.

 

Weird request not to want it holstered protecting it better.

They aren’t worth anything, they’re just sitting in a vault somewhere and not gonna see the light of day.

They won’t. It’s a done deal, no more appeals left nothing. It’s over.

 

Did you even read the article? The seller requested no holder and the winner can send it in to be holdered free of charge if they wish.

 

It doesn’t even matter at this point if it is or isn’t, it is the Farouk coin now and will always be that coin going forward. Nothings going to come up that’s going to change that when it’s lived as the Farouk coin for at least a couple decades and there’s not going to be a magical picture from decades ago to disprove that

 

Yeah I did read it. And you’re easy.

 

Certainly didn’t look like it from what I quested from you.

 

The Farouk coin has government paper on it in terms of the grant of an export license. The rest that sold before 1944 don’t have that government backing. Read the article again yourself.