1932 P Washington Quarter - I'm might need talked outta this one...

So I know a guy who has this quarter (see pics). It's obviously very reflective and for a 1932 that's not typical, not saying impossible, but just not typical. He's asking between MS63 and MS64 money. In looking at the coins I don't see the normal "whizzed look" , the surfaces certainly don't look dull and hazy, but the picture below through the loupe has me wondering. So is it polished? (yes I'm separating polishing from whizzed because in my mind they are two separate doctoring methods.) Well, I don't see a ton of hair lines, the obverse pic is not the best and does show one or two what could be hair lines. Dipped? well I don't see the dead surfaces you see with dipping, but I do notice haze around the obverse devices...under the bust, around the date... Luster looks great on the reverse. Washington's hair looks really good, detail wise, and the curls around his ear don't look flat and I don't see any luster breaks there. Reverse I see good detail in the breast and leg feathers. Wing tips look good and the strike looks to be above average for a 1932 P IMHO.

For my set, I'm not looking for graded coins, and I'm not as concerned about previous cleaning (dipped), its just a set for me to enjoy and learn from. What I don't want is to pay this kind of money for an obvious whiz job or polished job, if its been dipped...I might be OK with that.

Here's the kicker, the guys is willing to trade me for some silver *as collateral* If I don't like it, we will trade back. I think the price should be lower he is willing to send back some of my silver...I have purchased from this person before, hes straight up, honest, nice to work with and I trust him.

You know how it is tho, when you are passionate about your coins, some times you need others to unclouded your judgment because you really want it. That's where y'all come in. Here are the pics, tell me what you think about the condition of this quarter. Is it worth trading for collateral to get a better look?

 

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I am no expert...but it looks too"shinny" to me. Sometimes if it looks to good to be true, then it isn't. I would pass. But like I said its your choice. If you like it that is all that matters. I know my advice probably didn't help you much but IMHO. Have a great weekend.

 

polished, punt

also, not unc

 

NO! NO you did not!

But I appreciate your input any way...Yours is what I expect from other people...too shinny...

 

I think it's been polished as well.

 

I have to agree with others. I actually saw an original roll of these being opened about 25 years ago, not one of them looked that shiny. I believe its polished.

 

That is fantastic experience to have at my finger tips...much appreciated!

 

I would avoid as well. Does not even appear attractive to me.

 

I'll hop on the "don't buy it" bus unless he sells it to you for close to melt.

 

There are some PL quarters of the era, but this one is not one of them. The image through the loupe really gives it away that it has been heavily cleaned.

 

That is where my personal suspensions were from as well...

 

Doesn't look good to me.

 

Either polished, dipped or both. Pass on it. If it graded MS-61 I be surprised.

 

Hell no.

If you say this fellow is straight, I've no reason to doubt you, but it's only reasonable to ask yourself why he's asking "63-64 money" for that coin. If the honest person you say, then it suggests that perhaps he may not be quite as knowledgeable as one of you thinks, which is, unfortunately, commonplace with all too many self-described "dealers", sellers, flippers, collectors, etc. This isn't meant to be a black eye, but is something you may want to keep in mind when contemplating any future business with him, especially if in an area you're not that familiar with.

 

Polished

 

it's not a think, it's a know, he's just not as educated, and I knew that, which is why I had to put it to the fire out here. And apparently I'm not as solid on it as I thougt I was on this kind of doctoring eithrr, I just wanted this to be a good deal and it's not.

 

Completely understood, and asking was certainly a good thing. Perhaps next time all will turn out for the better.

 

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that the coin has been polished. Perhaps not with a compound but definitely with a soft cotton cloth.

 

PJ

The surfaces of that coin has been altered. I also disagree that the coin is uncirculated.

I do agree that finding flashy 1932-P quarters are very hard to find. It took me several years of looking to find an MS-65. I think it is easier to find a flashy MS-66 than a MS-65. Almost impossible to find MS-63 that is flashy unless someone polished the coin.

I would pass on that coin and keep looking. I don't think you will find a flashy MS-63 however. But that is the thrill of the hunt. Keep looking.

Jay

 

Jay! Great to hear from you out here! Thanks for chiming in.