1932 D Washington Quarter - Help grade please

Will definetly have it graded

Thanks guys. God I hope it doesnt get into a legal battle. I hate that stuff. Talked to him yesterday and told him i would refund his money. He said that I must be a novice because I listed it AU to maybe MS. He said it wasnt near that good, but he could understand me thinking so, since I am new at this. He did offer to go ahead and keep it if I would refund him $80 of his purchase price, but he wouldnt have it graded because of the cleaning. I told him to send it back to me. Learned a valuable lesson here, that any good coing needs to be graded.

Ron

 

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Ron,
Now when it comes to grading, I guess I would consider myself a novice as well, but based on your pics and what I know of the 32 series, this coin looks pretty nice to me. I think (and I could be wrong) that the 32 quarters generally have a weak strike to them. (I get them confused with the 34's) The one you have looked pretty solid. As far as it being cleaned, I can't tell from the pics, but Im not an expert. I have a 32D that was graded XF and yours looks a heck of a lot better. So either mine was way overgraded or this guy is really undergrading yours.

I think some memebers mentioned that, if you are not able to have a local expert look at it before sending it in, you probably would be better off sending it to ANACS because they will slab cleaned coins. I believe NGC will grade cleaned coins only if they are key dates (could be wrong about that too) If you are not sure, I would not waste your money on PCGS. Good luck and keep us posted.

 

I think this is fairly straight forward... The 32 D isn't known for having a super strong strike... That's why I really think this one needs to be sent in to be graded.

The first spot that shows wear on a Washington is the breast feathers. It doesn't take a whole lot of circulating for these to be completely absent.
Look at the breast feathers on this coin. All the feathers are present.

Now if you combine the fact that the 32 D wasn't a strong strike AND the fact that all the feathers are present... I can't help but think that this is MS coin.

As to the cleaning... I just don't see it. Why would someone shine up an already perfect coin (also most cleanings will destroy the breast feathers)? I don't know... To me the history of the coin is known. There's some toning on it... I just don't think it's been cleaned although I really can't make a call from the provided images.

Like I said, I'd send it in to ANACS. If for some reason it has been cleaned, they'll still grade it. I also think they're grading standards are as good (and lately a little bit better) than PCGS and NGC. And they're less expensive.

 

Be sure to mention to the bidder that you have put the coin on a forum previous to listing it in case he decides to send a different coin back of a cleaned lower grade expecting that "novice" might not notice. ICG also will grade a cleaned coin.

Jim

 

I edited the pictures of the coins and hope they show a little better detail! I cannot see any evidence of cleaning but things like that are most often, hard to determine from pictures. I believe that the coin is a decent AU-55 but might even go MS-60.

To be honest, I smell a Big Rat (in the case of the Buyer)! Anyone who picks up a $600++ coin for $381 and then wants to return it when it looks as good as this (the) coin does, then something is amiss!


Frank

 

Ef-45

this grades in at EF-45.

 

None of the OP photos are good enough to make the case for a MS coin or an AU coin.

Ef-45


this grades in at EF-45.
Isaiah

I don't think your eyes can see beyond the missing quality features that are lacking in these photos. Are you some sort of coinguru that sees all that's not even there?
The photos are fuzzy to say the least. Let the TPGs have a whack at it or have an experienced profesional grader examine it in hand.

 

Bruce,

You have made a very good point concerning grading the coin based on the pictures provided! Although I posted the above pictures in what I believe is the coin's true color, I zoomed the pictures up to 200% of normal and used the greyscale and sepia tone to make my determination that I believe the coin to be at least an AU-55. However, that is just my belief and I could be wrong even using the techniques that I used!


Frank

 

Sorry to disagree, but the OP pictures do have enough detail in them for me to be able to grade.

For a grade of 45, wear has to be evident on the center of the breast feathers. The provided images show that there isn't wear on the center of the breast feathers. The hair lines also have to be sharp which they most definitely are. Although the images aren't great, they do show these 2 things quite well.

Now combine all of that with strike issues for the 32D and to me this coin is obviously above a 45...

So what are the choice above that? AU or MS... At that point I'd send it in to be graded...