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<p>[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 2488782, member: 26030"]Actually, it's not a "looked at" population, it's a final graded and slabbed pop. I agree that the TPG's are bad at accounting for crackouts and resubmits, however I wonder if with Secure Plus Fingerprinting of coins at PCGS, if that might improve over time.</p><p><br /></p><p>One last thing, your argument would be much more convincing if the PCGS Slabbed populations went more like 80 for RD, 60 for RB, and 40 for BN. In that case I could see where maybe all the RD's were cracked out and resubmitted and they were counted twice -- in that case the real pop would be more like 40 for RD.</p><p><br /></p><p>However with their advertised POP of over 800 slabs for MS65RD ... even if you say each and every red in that pop number was submitted twice (which is a hard sell to me given the cost of grading) ... that still makes a true count of 400 MS65RD's ... still leaps and bounds higher than the count of 24 slabs for MS65BN. (Plus who's to say that all the BN coins were not also cracked out and resubmitted (so that 24 pop of BN's might really be only 12).</p><p><br /></p><p>To me the PCGS slab population reports, signify there are multiples more RD's than BN's in higher MS grades.</p><p><br /></p><p>To further my point check out the slab populations at the MS66 grade. The pop is shown as 105 MS66RD's, 4 MS66RB's, and only 1 MS66BN. There is no way you are going to convince me that there are more BN's and RB's at the MS66 grade (than RD's) -- the difference is just too large. Even if you tried to sell me that each RD coin at MS66 was submitted 4 times (which is nuts) ... you still have a 25:1 ratio of RDs to BNs.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 2488782, member: 26030"]Actually, it's not a "looked at" population, it's a final graded and slabbed pop. I agree that the TPG's are bad at accounting for crackouts and resubmits, however I wonder if with Secure Plus Fingerprinting of coins at PCGS, if that might improve over time. One last thing, your argument would be much more convincing if the PCGS Slabbed populations went more like 80 for RD, 60 for RB, and 40 for BN. In that case I could see where maybe all the RD's were cracked out and resubmitted and they were counted twice -- in that case the real pop would be more like 40 for RD. However with their advertised POP of over 800 slabs for MS65RD ... even if you say each and every red in that pop number was submitted twice (which is a hard sell to me given the cost of grading) ... that still makes a true count of 400 MS65RD's ... still leaps and bounds higher than the count of 24 slabs for MS65BN. (Plus who's to say that all the BN coins were not also cracked out and resubmitted (so that 24 pop of BN's might really be only 12). To me the PCGS slab population reports, signify there are multiples more RD's than BN's in higher MS grades. To further my point check out the slab populations at the MS66 grade. The pop is shown as 105 MS66RD's, 4 MS66RB's, and only 1 MS66BN. There is no way you are going to convince me that there are more BN's and RB's at the MS66 grade (than RD's) -- the difference is just too large. Even if you tried to sell me that each RD coin at MS66 was submitted 4 times (which is nuts) ... you still have a 25:1 ratio of RDs to BNs.[/QUOTE]
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