1927 Lincoln Cent Question

This tells me one thing for sure. You don't know anything about what coins are made of or how they are made. Have you never seen an uncirculated wheat cent? They aren't brown. A copper cent is made of a solid alloy (alloy of 95% copper & 5% tin and zinc). Nickels are this way also (75% copper & 25% nickel). 1965 to date quarters & dimes are bonded layers, also know as clad coins. They have a solid copper core with two outer layers of 75% copper & 25% nickel. These three layers are bonded under extreme pressure. Seriously man, you need to read, read, read, and quit writing. I still don't understand the brown layer you are talking about. How do you thing copper cents get the designation of MS65 red? READ UP!

 

Log in or Sign up to hide this ad.

Someone sends in a proof coin fresh out of the holder thats how.
Proof coins dont need much protection because there made to be kept in cardboard or a holder of somekind, not released into the wild. and the process to make them is alot more thorough and some get many strikes like brilliant proofs. There is also matte proofs and one other kind i cant think of right now which looks more brown then a brillaint proof that is struck many times to smoooth out the surface to a mirror finishthere is still a coating on them i bet you anything five buck will do.
So what side of this coin is normal to you...
One side has the toning gently removed the other doesn not.
The toning is the ''lamination'' on the pre 82 cents and probably adds an additional layer of protection to the coin(lamination) . post 82 1/3 cents are laminated/cladded with with copper nickle. Thats why its not good to 'rub' your coins the blueish layer comes off first then the brown layer if you rub it enough then you have what i would call a raw cent it looks nice and shiny but its ruined numismatical speaking because an intire layer has been removed from the coin. I dont really care if it was cleaned or not if it was an interesting image like a ghost image or an interesting alloy mix or somthing i wouldnt call the op's coin a beautiful error though it is a bit interesting kinda well not really but i do like the year 1 9 27. The first thing a good coin collector should do is figure out how to determin if a coin has been cleaned or not just so they know incase they want to sell it to a dealer one day Look at some of your better looking pre 82's and you will probably see in the field of the coin the blueish haze toning has probably be worn off and the deepest areas around the letters and devises still has the original mint toning. like i said i dont know much about graded coins nore do i care for them much after all they were mint to look that way and many are produced. I like strange coins with mysteries behind them. I am starting to become interested in all coins and starting to see the more interesting aspects of coins and why they may be a good investment in the future. I have some silver coins, random tokens and foriegn coins I only collect coins that have interesting eye appeal or stand out from the crowd.
Im thinking out loud in some of my posts thats the best way for me to retain any knowledge i have learned and or refine it and to help others learn as well im not here claiming im an expert but im good at developing theories and figuring out things other people overlook. Each piece can be very different and some people think that if it doesnt look like the last one they saw it cant be so. Almost every piece is unique in its own way some are common but still have unique qualities.

BTW im not concerned with what percentages of what are in coins to much unless you can tell me what percentages of what metals are in this wartime wheat cent that would really be helpfull ...

 

Dude you're clueless! So 1983 and up cents are made of coppernickel? You should be banned for spreading false information!

 

The numismatic term 'lamination' has its own definition. Look it up.

You appear to be confusing it with lamination as it is done to preserve a paper: a coat of plastic.

Toning being described as lamination as a protective layer over a coin is totally wrong. Read up on numismatic terminology.

 

LOL your I said laminated/cladded did you not comprehend that? There is tons of miss information on this site and others and in the field in general and seems to be even more coin haters. There are also zink cents that are made in 82 along with a few other types I have a few of those they weigh 2.5 . Here is a scan of two 82's one is 95% copper and weighs 3.1 the other one weighs 2.5. I think i read somewhere that some 82's were also minted at west point or somewhere like that i forget. There was also like 7 different types of cents made that year. Probably because it was a very experimental year.

 

Ok yeah good point. That is what it looks like in a way and its more understandable on other more profound examples. It still seems like mis use of the terminol0gy when looking at a cent like this and id still call it aa alloy defect no mather what process it happened at.

I have read the coating/ toning Is designed to protect the raw copper core or at least that is an added benefit. Maybe you should go read up yourself . Calling this a beautiful lamination error is completly bogus. Now that i think of it I would probably call it a rolling mill error I did an enhancement a while back and there is another area on the right side of Lincoln perpendicular to the error on on the left that has a similar compisition and since the coin is worn down to the core metal id have to say it is a slight composition/alloy error of the constock.

Anything can be laminated not just paper.

The definition doesnt change. My resoning is more logical there yours. I think its not ment to be toning. Its ment to be a protective layer on the coin (HENCE THE WORD "LAMINATION'') numismatis call it ''toning'' You have been mis-informed!

 

You are spreading so much false informstion and are polluting otherwise educational threads with images of junk coins and illogical theories. The coin originally posted in this thread is hands-down a lamination error, and no amount of your rambling will prove otherwise.

Toning comes from the patina of a coin, which is a layer only MICRONS thick on the surface of the coin.

A lamination comes from the actual alloy of the planchet, and when it is improperly mixed or contaminated. That has NOTHING to do with toning. I would suggest you post less and read more so you can understand where we are coming from...

 

This thread is so filled with nonsense and misinformation! For those with knowledge who are reading it for amusement, that is one thing , but any newbie reading it for knowledge, be sure to research more before quoting anything from obvious poster. Sir, I am sorry, but you are over the line. One can not just make up theories because they feel they are good at winging it. Scientific and historic information is an underlying foundation of error coin/variety coin knowledge. Your coin is damaged and worthless, and your theories are totally unsupported. We really hate to close any thread unless necessary, but I am going to do so as much of it is totally wrong and sad.
Jim