1927 Double Struck Penny

Pressure (as in one coin being pressed onto another) would produce an incuse and mirror image of the design, which is not what we are seeing here. So I don't think the answer is as simple as "pressure". That being said, I still doubt that this is a legitimate error. I would like to hear Mike Diamond's opinion on the coin.

 

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I wonder how it was done.

 

If you look at the letters in liberty above the original liberty the T looks odd almost like someone carved it or something.

 

Probably a combination of both double struck and some post mint error unless the coin just wore out that quick

 

The coin was impressed by a coin that had already been in a "viced" against another coin. The coin that is being pressed against another coin in the vice will show a negative-recessed design. The negative-recessed coin is the coin that was pressed against the OP's coin. Confusing? Yeah. I could draw it out better than I can explain in through text.

But none of this could have been produced without sufficient pressure

 

The fact that the coin is this worn is mighty suspicious since a double struck coin would get pulled from circulation while it was near unc.

I was thinking along the same lines as MS-70.

Not worth grading.

 

what is a post mint error ?

if it didn't happen at the mint how can it be an error ?

 

Damage I meant lol

 

Do you still think it is double struck ?

I don't

Have you ever seen a double struck coin this worn ?

It's some sort of vice-job and I'd bet my wife's life it was done outside of the mint !

 

I'd buy it!!!! post-pre-whatever---looks like cashola$$$$$$$

 

wow super cool error. :thumb:

 

I'll tell you, you might not be too far off. That obverse strike is consistent with a loosely-fit die. Those devices came from a die, as they're raised. The slight separation in the images would suggest a loose collar. Any looser than that, the die would fall out. The collar was loose, but still snug enough up against the die to hold it there. A greater separation would suggest the assembly itself was out of alignment. When the die lifted, it took the coin up with it, another planchet fed, and the die and coin came down on that planchet. Then the coin circulated for 105 years.

 

Lorenzian, could we get pics of the full coin, obverse and reverse, straight at it ? I'm betting that this coin is more round than what these angled pics are showing.

 

I agree with clutchy, more pics......please.

 

How about one nice 1200mp of the obverse and reverse. Lay that sucker down on something grey or a little dark colored( so there is no glare) and snap two nice Hallmark Portraits of this cent.

 

Is this coin a even thickness ? Would you also take a few pics of the edge ? Do you have a dial caliper to measure the diameter and thickness as well ?

 

It looks to be irreparably broken. Send it to me and I will properly dispose of it.

Seriously though, it looks like there is a heavy die clash above and to the left of the date (T) and on liberty (C). The E and the N are slightly less visible. This might provide clues as to how it happened.

 

You seemed pretty adamant about it being a mint error before...

If you're requesting more photos after the myriad of pics posted in the OP, you must be reweighing.

 

I hate to second guess anything, usually when I grab onto an opinion I stick to it. Damn straight...I want to see some more pictures, that doesn't mean that I have changed my opinion on this cent. The amount of work that it would require to fake a cent like this would be unreal. However, it is strange that the OP posted this and no one has seen him since...............I'm assuming he is in the hands of the F.B.I. for one count of counterfeiting a DDO.

 

Double Struck/PMD/Vise Job/Whatever. Its an amazing coin.