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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mrbrklyn, post: 561201, member: 4381&quot;]Sorry for the confusion again</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&amp;Lot_No=21272&amp;src=pr#Photo" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&amp;Lot_No=21272&amp;src=pr#Photo" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&amp;Lot_No=21272&amp;src=pr#Photo</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This one is an MS&nbsp; 64 (not 63) and sold for $460 at auction on heritage which I think is a great value and affordable.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I agree.&nbsp; I think it might be tooled and then artificially toned in order to cover up the handy work.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Indeed, your right about strikes on this date.&nbsp; That is one of the reasons why I posted the 1925&#039;s from the Heritage archive just to show that although there are weak examples, none that I saw had this specific pattern and the later ones I posted just to show what the full pattern looked like and the last one to show that good strikes are still available for this year at reasonable prices.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That is the wildcard in this conversation.&nbsp; The original poster is a reliable or at least an honest source of information, IMO based on past discussions with him on cointalk, and he is saying that in the hand he has seen better detail and can&#039;t find frost breaks on the coin.&nbsp; We have to take him at his word but I would like to see if he brought that coin to an SLQ expert what they would say.&nbsp; Because I still have questions about the coin</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>no - the shield usually flattens out.&nbsp; I think the coin was tooled.&nbsp; Its not just the rivets.&nbsp; We&#039;re confusing two points.&nbsp; One was that I think the coin had wear, either that or that it is an incredibly weak strike that was tooled and AT.&nbsp; The second point is that the weakness of the stike, to me, isn&#039;t consistent with the head details, which are extremely well defined.</p><p><br /></p><p>That being said, despite my skepticism,&nbsp; Bill just posted that in his opinion this strike combination is a known combination of coin strike.&nbsp; I&#039;m still skeptical but I defer completely to Bill&#039;s experience in this matter.&nbsp; I&#039;d still like to see examples of common coins with this strike pattern.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Honestly, I focused mostly on higher end Type I&#039;s although I looked over a lot of type IIs as well and considered buying them.&nbsp; If I saw this coin among 50 others I wouldn&#039;t have even noticed it because I&#039;m very big on strike and the lack of strike would have made me pass right over it, regardless of its grade or price or cost.&nbsp; I&#039;m not a series collector and have no compunction (sic) to fill a whole with a 1925 specifically.&nbsp; I would have purchased a Type II&nbsp; without a FH and with a strong shield and great strike on the body, with a clear Eagle on the reverse in a heart beat.&nbsp; In fact, I would have viewed that as a huge bargain, because without the FH it would cost a lot less for a more attractive coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ruben[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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