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<p>[QUOTE="Numiscent, post: 686466, member: 16300"]Hey guys, I just happened to glance at the forum tonight in my free time (Sorry that I seldom do.) I'll gladly chime in and help clear up a lot of the guesswork involved when only having photos to view. I read all of the posts up to this, so if I miss something critical in my answer, just point it out to me and I'll address it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Both coins are in the weak strike / possibly altered, possibly original / "just ok" category that a lot of my recent S mints on eBay have fallen into. I don't see signs of cleaning on either. I'm not positive about the state of color on either one. </p><p><br /></p><p>Sometimes coins can be obviously recolored, whether they are pale pink from being dipped or even if amazing looking coins "pumpkin" blazing red gems. Other coins are unmistakably original. Then there are a bunch in between. When talking early raw Lincolns, there are a LOT in between. These are two of them. </p><p><br /></p><p>If I thought they were definitely original, I may have considered having them slabbed (probably MS62 or so due to the softness). Or maybe I'd try to sell them raw, pricing them a little lower than slabbed would bring, in exchange for avoiding the headache that is submitting copper coins to PCGS or NGC. In that case I would stress that I think they are totally original, which would be the big selling point. </p><p><br /></p><p>You may wonder why don't I explain all of this in my auction description if I think they might not be original in color. There are several reasons. One, if there's a chance that they are original, I'm doing the coin's more harm than they deserve. I always list in my auction descriptions that a coin is definitely or likely recolored if I think it is. People appreciate the honesty and it doesn't hurt me. That brings me to the second reason...I think it's assumed that most raw early Lincolns from the branch mints are probably raw for a reason. The low prices they bring surely reflect that! I also assume that when I buy them, and it quickly becomes so commonplace that without realizing I just assume it's generally accepted. Of course they are not all altered, but I don't think I'm delivering any news by saying it comes with the territory.</p><p><br /></p><p>Back to these coins in question. Both have mint luster, which is the single hardest thing for me to find for both a raw 24-S and raw 26-S. So when I see that, I immediately think "bonus" and want them. Then if I see hairlines or other evidence of abrasive cleaning, I decide do I want to sell this and mention the hairlines, or do I want to pass? Nothing of the sort stood out to me on these, so my thought was to offer them. These dates are slim pickings and even a not-so-pretty 26-S with mint luster has appeal to me both as a collector and as a dealer. </p><p><br /></p><p>These are the thoughts that go through my head, more so than simply "is it original or not" or "will it slab or not." You will surely drive yourself crazy playing that game with S mint Lincolns from the teens and twenties!</p><p><br /></p><p>Hope that helps. I must have missed some of those great points brought up. I'll be glad to add more if asked.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Numiscent, post: 686466, member: 16300"]Hey guys, I just happened to glance at the forum tonight in my free time (Sorry that I seldom do.) I'll gladly chime in and help clear up a lot of the guesswork involved when only having photos to view. I read all of the posts up to this, so if I miss something critical in my answer, just point it out to me and I'll address it. Both coins are in the weak strike / possibly altered, possibly original / "just ok" category that a lot of my recent S mints on eBay have fallen into. I don't see signs of cleaning on either. I'm not positive about the state of color on either one. Sometimes coins can be obviously recolored, whether they are pale pink from being dipped or even if amazing looking coins "pumpkin" blazing red gems. Other coins are unmistakably original. Then there are a bunch in between. When talking early raw Lincolns, there are a LOT in between. These are two of them. If I thought they were definitely original, I may have considered having them slabbed (probably MS62 or so due to the softness). Or maybe I'd try to sell them raw, pricing them a little lower than slabbed would bring, in exchange for avoiding the headache that is submitting copper coins to PCGS or NGC. In that case I would stress that I think they are totally original, which would be the big selling point. You may wonder why don't I explain all of this in my auction description if I think they might not be original in color. There are several reasons. One, if there's a chance that they are original, I'm doing the coin's more harm than they deserve. I always list in my auction descriptions that a coin is definitely or likely recolored if I think it is. People appreciate the honesty and it doesn't hurt me. That brings me to the second reason...I think it's assumed that most raw early Lincolns from the branch mints are probably raw for a reason. The low prices they bring surely reflect that! I also assume that when I buy them, and it quickly becomes so commonplace that without realizing I just assume it's generally accepted. Of course they are not all altered, but I don't think I'm delivering any news by saying it comes with the territory. Back to these coins in question. Both have mint luster, which is the single hardest thing for me to find for both a raw 24-S and raw 26-S. So when I see that, I immediately think "bonus" and want them. Then if I see hairlines or other evidence of abrasive cleaning, I decide do I want to sell this and mention the hairlines, or do I want to pass? Nothing of the sort stood out to me on these, so my thought was to offer them. These dates are slim pickings and even a not-so-pretty 26-S with mint luster has appeal to me both as a collector and as a dealer. These are the thoughts that go through my head, more so than simply "is it original or not" or "will it slab or not." You will surely drive yourself crazy playing that game with S mint Lincolns from the teens and twenties! Hope that helps. I must have missed some of those great points brought up. I'll be glad to add more if asked.[/QUOTE]
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