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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 111706, member: 112"]A scan tends to wash out the luster on a coin and that can make it look dull. But on the other hand a scan does an excellent job of showing minor detail. And it is the detail on this coin that tells me that the luster is largely gone. It also shows me that the coin has been harshly cleaned. It might help to understand that the definition of harsh cleaning is anything that leaves marks on the coin. But let's take it by the numbers.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is your picture - </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1923front%20a.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Do you see the parallel lines I have circled between the 1 and WE and on the neck ? Those are the result of someone rubbing a cloth across the surface of the coin. That is harsh cleaning. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now, look at the tops of the rays that I have circled in this picture. See the lines going across the tops of the rays ? You can even see where the rubbed surface starts and the unrubbed surface ends. That is also the result of harsh cleaning.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1923front%20b.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now look at the surface of the coin as a whole - see all the light grey and dark grey areas. Notice how all the light grey areas are concentrated on the high points of the devices - that is a combination of wear and harsh cleaning.</p><p><br /></p><p>Same thing applies to the reverse. The rectangular area ( that you call eraser marks ) is obvious. Personally I think it was the result of a cloth and cleaning compound, but that's imaterial. Either way, it is extremely harsh cleaning. But let's look at other areas as well.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1923back%20a.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Notice the high points of the rock, the ends of the tail feathers and the talons; also notice the head and neck. That is the result of wear and harsh cleaning. You can also look at almost any other area of the coin and see similar marks on all of the high points.</p><p><br /></p><p>To answer your other question, no two cleaned coins will ever look the same. It depends on too many variables - the condition of the coin before cleaning, what it was cleaned with and how harshly or gently it was cleaned. Was the coin only dipped or was it rubbed - etc etc. So of course the Peace dollar looks different than the Morgan.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 111706, member: 112"]A scan tends to wash out the luster on a coin and that can make it look dull. But on the other hand a scan does an excellent job of showing minor detail. And it is the detail on this coin that tells me that the luster is largely gone. It also shows me that the coin has been harshly cleaned. It might help to understand that the definition of harsh cleaning is anything that leaves marks on the coin. But let's take it by the numbers. Here is your picture - [IMG]http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1923front%20a.JPG[/IMG] Do you see the parallel lines I have circled between the 1 and WE and on the neck ? Those are the result of someone rubbing a cloth across the surface of the coin. That is harsh cleaning. Now, look at the tops of the rays that I have circled in this picture. See the lines going across the tops of the rays ? You can even see where the rubbed surface starts and the unrubbed surface ends. That is also the result of harsh cleaning. [IMG]http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1923front%20b.JPG[/IMG] Now look at the surface of the coin as a whole - see all the light grey and dark grey areas. Notice how all the light grey areas are concentrated on the high points of the devices - that is a combination of wear and harsh cleaning. Same thing applies to the reverse. The rectangular area ( that you call eraser marks ) is obvious. Personally I think it was the result of a cloth and cleaning compound, but that's imaterial. Either way, it is extremely harsh cleaning. But let's look at other areas as well. [IMG]http://www.gdjmsp.cointalk.org/other_pics/1923back%20a.JPG[/IMG] Notice the high points of the rock, the ends of the tail feathers and the talons; also notice the head and neck. That is the result of wear and harsh cleaning. You can also look at almost any other area of the coin and see similar marks on all of the high points. To answer your other question, no two cleaned coins will ever look the same. It depends on too many variables - the condition of the coin before cleaning, what it was cleaned with and how harshly or gently it was cleaned. Was the coin only dipped or was it rubbed - etc etc. So of course the Peace dollar looks different than the Morgan.[/QUOTE]
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