1923-D Silver Mercury “Soviet” Dime

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  1. h.e.-pennypacker

    h.e.-pennypacker Gold and Silver!

    Hello, this Dime is a silver counterfeit “Soviet Dime” it is a 1923-D, a year which doesn’t actually exist, I’m wondering if anyone has any idea what it may be worth. I didn’t find any examples on eBay. There was another (old) thread about this counterfeit Dime and I asked the question, but was accused of “hijacking” the thread, so I’m posting it here. I don’t have any experience with infamous counterfeit coins. This one seems to be very well done, it’s a struck coin and it is actually made of silver. Thank you.

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Worth something to folks who collect counterfeits...........true collectors? Nah.
     
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  4. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis College Dorm Collector Supporter

    im assuming its a genuine coin with a glued on mint mark.
     
  5. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis College Dorm Collector Supporter

    id pay 5 for one
     
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  6. h.e.-pennypacker

    h.e.-pennypacker Gold and Silver!

    Yeah I don’t collect stuff like this, but I’m sure plenty of people do.
     
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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    There are counterfeit collects but it's not going to bring a lot.
     
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  8. Matthew Kruse

    Matthew Kruse Young Numismatist

    I agree. Maybe not glued on but something like that... There seems to be a dark circle around the mint mark on the reverse.
     
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  9. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis College Dorm Collector Supporter

    that's how some 1914 D fakes are done. the metal was soft, so you slice a mintmark off of a random cent and paste it on a 1914. You make her look dirtied, and no one will question it.

    that's their hope
     
  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Paying a lot of money for a known counterfeit is a risky move given the fact that it is illegal to own it. Yes, the law is selectively enforced, but the law is there nevertheless.

    And yes, a glued-on mint mark is a possibility. There is a dark area around this one.
     
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  11. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    Looks like a 27 D to me.
     
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  12. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity Supporter

    Yeah, I thought that too, possible for wear to push some metal over to create the mid-prong of a 3, there’s enough wear.

    But the year is good for Philly and San Francisco...that D mintmark seals the deal on counterfeit...they didn’t make any that year!…jmho...Spark
     
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  13. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    The top of the worn 3 in 1923 looks wrong to me...has a dentil on the tip that don't think was there on 3s...but clear enough (just barely) to be a 3. Thing is, to me, why would anyone be faking a dime...dimes...or other small denoms...? Seems they'd focus on the big stuff of halves and dollars.
     
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  14. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    It's against the law to knowingly sell a counterfeit coin or currency...
     
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  15. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity Supporter

    Thinking back...a dime in 1923 was like 1 or 2 dollars today, so the psychology would be: the smaller denoms get overlooked; easier to pass off. Henning did the same thing with nickels...imo...Spark
     
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  16. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Good point about the inflation...easy to forget.
     
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  17. Dug13

    Dug13 Well-Known Member

    I thought it was only “against the law” to fraud or deceive someone with counterfeit moneies.
    I have seen counterfeit coins (list as counterfeit) for sale at coin shows. Also openly listed on dealers web sites.
     
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  18. Dug13

    Dug13 Well-Known Member

    I thought I just read about this recently.......went back and looked through my monthly’s magazine subscription pile.......located this article in COIN WORLD:


    “It’s is illegal to pass counterfeit coins as genuine. It is illegal to sell counterfeit coins as genuine collectible coins. It is not illegal to possess them or buy or sell them as numismatic curiosities.
    Armen R Vartain, former Coin World legal columnist, put it succinctly; The statutes do not criminalize the mere possession of counterfeit money”
     
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  19. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Buying a counterfeit or owning a counterfeit is in of itself not illegal. Knowningly selling (regardless of intent), spending, or giving any improperly-marked counterfeit manufactured after 1973 is illegal. Older counterfeits can be legally bought and sold without COPY being stamped into them as long as they are properly described as such.

    Again, the is true for all post-1973 counterfeits. Older counterfeits are legal to sell given there is no “intent to defraud”.
     
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  20. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    I'm with ya now, the 9 is all kinds of wrong for either 1923 or 1927.

    although from what I can find on the "soviet dime" the 9 is wrong for that also....

    interesting. thanks for sharing.
     
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  21. Corn Man

    Corn Man Well-Known Member

    why is it called a soviet dime?
     
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