1922 D no D little help please

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  1. Jas17931

    Jas17931 Junior Member

    Hi,
    I recently found this penny. Examined it for almost an hour and in variety of light. The "22" is barely visible only on a certain angle and in certain light. Thought I would post for your thoughts?
     

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  3. Jas17931

    Jas17931 Junior Member

    reverse

    Here is the reverse
     

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    Jas17931 Junior Member

    another angle

    another angle
     

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  5. Jas17931

    Jas17931 Junior Member

    another of the reverse

    another of the reverse
     

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  6. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I am not sure how you can tell it is a 1922, but it is not any of the recognized die pairs for the no"D". There are enough left on your coin to rule out each one of them.
     
  7. Jas17931

    Jas17931 Junior Member

    die pairs

    The only die pair that I think maybe possible is #1
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Die pair #1 has a die crack running from the O in ONE to the L. Unless I am missing something, yours does not have that crack.
     
  9. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    damaged beyond recognition of being a no D cent.
     
  10. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Too banged up to tell anything.
    Also that 9 looks a tad off to me.
     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I am just curious. How do you get a coin so damaged/banged up, but still have a full complete rim without a ding in it?

    BTW, ligia, since the no"D" cents are specific die pairs, there probably is enough there to recognize it as a no"D". However, in this case, I can tell you it is not a no "D".
     
  12. conpewter

    conpewter Junior Member

    Thin planchet perhaps? Still gets the rim rolled on but not fully punched on the date side.
     
  13. mas4492

    mas4492 Junior Member

    1922 is an exceptional Lincoln to grade. Weigh the coin to determine if it's a planchet deficiency.
    It looks to be a grease filled die.
    Probably MS63 or better.
     
  14. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    IMO, that's an AU coin that was struck on a grease filled die....that's my guess. I've never seen a 1922-D like that one! You need to let Bill or MikeD have a look at it.
     
  15. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    thad, that coin is Post Mint Damaged. No expert necessary.
     
  16. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Maybe, but the rim looks complete....I leave this to Bill or Mike Diamond as I'm no expert on these. Those guys can instantly tell.
     
  17. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

    I have to disagree with the thought that what caused the lack of detail on the obverse & reverse was due to PMD. Those areas where the normal design are missing look MUCH THICKER than the rest of the surface/field of the coin , so I go with partially grease filled die on both the rev & obv as the cause of the uniqueness of this coin. As for the rest of the coin is shows regular circulation wear. I would like to see some straigh on rim shots from the north , south , east & west so that we can all see the thickness or thicknesses of the coin.
     
  18. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist


    OK. I will ask again. How can that coin be so damaged but still have a full undamaged rim? When you can explain that, I might agree with you. "Might" agree, that is.
     
  19. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    while I agree that experts will be better able to describe the damage, it appears in the same area of the coin, both obverse and reverse. That says PMD to me and although I agree that most PMD would have also altered the rim, I would bet dollars to donuts that this is PMD and the experts will confirm it.
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Maybe grease, but also possibly a tapered planchet. It doesn't really look to me like PMD.
     
  21. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I think there's another thread on this coin....it's been classified as a "tapered planchet". First I've heard of that, but it seems to be the conclusion.
     
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