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<p>[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1087709, member: 19065"]Of course you wouldn't think your example was extreme, because then it wouldn't support your "moral" argument. You didn't simply give an example of a "a coin made of gold" but one with characteristics numismatist care about, the implied superiority of the "Saint-Gaudens" makes your example more distinct and goes beyond intrinsic value. You could have compared any other silver coin to the one we are talking about, but you jumped to a metal with greater value attempting to underscore by large numbers your point, <i>an extreme comparison</i>, not merely 'intrinsic' value. You might well have compared the OP's coin to another 90% silver coin, even kept in line with the face value of the OPs coin. There was no purpose but to divert attention to something you think transcends values, morality, when none were violated let alone in question by anyone buy you again asserting your own belief system on this trivial point of material valuations. Equally, your comparison solicits collector favoritism and the numismatic valuations placed upon a Saint-Gaudens piece compared to other common double eagle gold coins. Still further, you didn't compare the coins based on environmental damage. Extreme you were, more so now that you let the morality-cat out of the bag.</p><p><br /></p><p>You wouldn't call your example extreme but I do and have demonstrated that you have gone there for overwhelming support in more ways than one.</p><p><br /></p><p>Additionally, the melt value you gave for the OPs coin is currently sinking with the market value of PMs, the other day it was $9.96, today it's $9.72. The value I originally gave, face value: .50¢ (and never indicated by any suggestion to melt a key/semi-key date coin nor made any mention it was worthless as melt) has not changed. I didn't require an extreme example to support the coins stable value holding at .50¢… just take the coin to your bank and try to deposit it for anything greater than face value. It's not a matter of morals here, but perspective, some times it's only worth face, other times melt or close to melt, and still other times, perhaps worth more than melt to the right buyer as a collectible with numismatic premium. Ultimately, it's worth what the OP would sell it for and a given buyer is willing to pay for it, irregardless of market and moral valuations of the individual.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1087709, member: 19065"]Of course you wouldn't think your example was extreme, because then it wouldn't support your "moral" argument. You didn't simply give an example of a "a coin made of gold" but one with characteristics numismatist care about, the implied superiority of the "Saint-Gaudens" makes your example more distinct and goes beyond intrinsic value. You could have compared any other silver coin to the one we are talking about, but you jumped to a metal with greater value attempting to underscore by large numbers your point, [I]an extreme comparison[/I], not merely 'intrinsic' value. You might well have compared the OP's coin to another 90% silver coin, even kept in line with the face value of the OPs coin. There was no purpose but to divert attention to something you think transcends values, morality, when none were violated let alone in question by anyone buy you again asserting your own belief system on this trivial point of material valuations. Equally, your comparison solicits collector favoritism and the numismatic valuations placed upon a Saint-Gaudens piece compared to other common double eagle gold coins. Still further, you didn't compare the coins based on environmental damage. Extreme you were, more so now that you let the morality-cat out of the bag. You wouldn't call your example extreme but I do and have demonstrated that you have gone there for overwhelming support in more ways than one. Additionally, the melt value you gave for the OPs coin is currently sinking with the market value of PMs, the other day it was $9.96, today it's $9.72. The value I originally gave, face value: .50¢ (and never indicated by any suggestion to melt a key/semi-key date coin nor made any mention it was worthless as melt) has not changed. I didn't require an extreme example to support the coins stable value holding at .50¢… just take the coin to your bank and try to deposit it for anything greater than face value. It's not a matter of morals here, but perspective, some times it's only worth face, other times melt or close to melt, and still other times, perhaps worth more than melt to the right buyer as a collectible with numismatic premium. Ultimately, it's worth what the OP would sell it for and a given buyer is willing to pay for it, irregardless of market and moral valuations of the individual.[/QUOTE]
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