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<p>[QUOTE="tpsadler, post: 2329258, member: 9860"]Have had the opportunity to review this thread and the original request for thought about the 1921 Peace Dollar I have come to these concussions. The appreciation the TPG is good reference as they see hundred if not thousands of similar coins (Experience is King). I have been a dealer for over ten years, a collector since 10 and have had the pleasure to have seen hundreds of these coins (But I too consider myself as a Beginner with Interest in the Hobby). That cannot replace the numbers seen by TPG companies. But as a reseller I can only give my educated opinion as I stand behind those to given to my customer. I offer a full refund if the buyer should find opinion to be unfair or unjust therefore I have a distinct reason for my Opinion.</p><p>That being said I will further justify my opinion on that 1921 Peace Dollar. Not the 1857 One Dollar Gold piece [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] displayed as I think those show little similarity but do have highlighted important concepts and terms.</p><p>The 1921 IMO does not show Striations unless [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] is referring to the area about the Ear on the Obverse, this is the high point of the relief and I also agree this would be a flat part with little or no detail showing.. I also am of the opinion Scratches prior to the Strike would most generally be obviated by the Strike. I have to agree, my knowledge of what happens during Minting (Strike) to the Striations is a little lacking and from the reference in this Thread of "The Art and Science of Grading Coins" and discussion in this Thread has moved my level of striations and the minting understanding from Immediate to Advanced Immediate (Thanks). Circulated coins will have Scratches, Rubs, and a general a multitude of different types of damage (History). This coin in IMO has obvious been Cleaned, likely due to someone attempting to improve the Shine by removing the grit. Those are seen by the circular marks over the entire Obverse and some of the Reverse.</p><p>My particular concern is the eye appeal of this coin and there are many of 1921 Peace Dollars in AU that do not show these marks. IMO if you are spending your hard earned money do not spend too much therefore my grade as AU(Cleaned), which by most standards indicate XF pricing at most. The adjective of Harshly Cleaned is just the Adjective I would use as I think this have been intentionally done with little concern of the history of this coin. Cleaned would imply to me as some had soaked this coin in some form of detergent and lightly cleaned removing some or most the coin's life or character but not rubbing. (That's my Opinion and am sure some will disagree.)</p><p>I do not mean with this with any disrespect but after reviewing [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] Posts and do appreciate his time. I could not say there were any Lights Going Off or Ahh Moments this is just a difference of opinions. Purchasing this coin will have little I do not the technical details of how or why these Scratches or Striations appeared and do with the Collector's definition of Eye Appeal and how it will fit their need. Correct Key Attributes are extremely useful when buying via photos or Site Unseen. Therefore I do see [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER]''s point.</p><p>Two of the most important categories most collectors will identify can be simply defined in terms of ownership "Yours and Mine" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> . I highly recommend the book "The Art and Science of Grading Coins" Get the book not the Kindle version as the photos are too hard to see. IMO Peace Dollars are one of the hardest to grade little alone the High Relief 1921 and 1922.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="tpsadler, post: 2329258, member: 9860"]Have had the opportunity to review this thread and the original request for thought about the 1921 Peace Dollar I have come to these concussions. The appreciation the TPG is good reference as they see hundred if not thousands of similar coins (Experience is King). I have been a dealer for over ten years, a collector since 10 and have had the pleasure to have seen hundreds of these coins (But I too consider myself as a Beginner with Interest in the Hobby). That cannot replace the numbers seen by TPG companies. But as a reseller I can only give my educated opinion as I stand behind those to given to my customer. I offer a full refund if the buyer should find opinion to be unfair or unjust therefore I have a distinct reason for my Opinion. That being said I will further justify my opinion on that 1921 Peace Dollar. Not the 1857 One Dollar Gold piece [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] displayed as I think those show little similarity but do have highlighted important concepts and terms. The 1921 IMO does not show Striations unless [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] is referring to the area about the Ear on the Obverse, this is the high point of the relief and I also agree this would be a flat part with little or no detail showing.. I also am of the opinion Scratches prior to the Strike would most generally be obviated by the Strike. I have to agree, my knowledge of what happens during Minting (Strike) to the Striations is a little lacking and from the reference in this Thread of "The Art and Science of Grading Coins" and discussion in this Thread has moved my level of striations and the minting understanding from Immediate to Advanced Immediate (Thanks). Circulated coins will have Scratches, Rubs, and a general a multitude of different types of damage (History). This coin in IMO has obvious been Cleaned, likely due to someone attempting to improve the Shine by removing the grit. Those are seen by the circular marks over the entire Obverse and some of the Reverse. My particular concern is the eye appeal of this coin and there are many of 1921 Peace Dollars in AU that do not show these marks. IMO if you are spending your hard earned money do not spend too much therefore my grade as AU(Cleaned), which by most standards indicate XF pricing at most. The adjective of Harshly Cleaned is just the Adjective I would use as I think this have been intentionally done with little concern of the history of this coin. Cleaned would imply to me as some had soaked this coin in some form of detergent and lightly cleaned removing some or most the coin's life or character but not rubbing. (That's my Opinion and am sure some will disagree.) I do not mean with this with any disrespect but after reviewing [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] Posts and do appreciate his time. I could not say there were any Lights Going Off or Ahh Moments this is just a difference of opinions. Purchasing this coin will have little I do not the technical details of how or why these Scratches or Striations appeared and do with the Collector's definition of Eye Appeal and how it will fit their need. Correct Key Attributes are extremely useful when buying via photos or Site Unseen. Therefore I do see [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER]''s point. Two of the most important categories most collectors will identify can be simply defined in terms of ownership "Yours and Mine" :) . I highly recommend the book "The Art and Science of Grading Coins" Get the book not the Kindle version as the photos are too hard to see. IMO Peace Dollars are one of the hardest to grade little alone the High Relief 1921 and 1922.[/QUOTE]
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