1921 Morgan Prooflike

Doesn't matter much, a VF-30 cleaned 1921 morgan is worth just about the same as a MS details

No its not, its gonna come back as cleaned.

 

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There is multiple pictures of one coin.

 

All of which shows the coin as cleaned

 

Lol, I refrained from saying that exact statement

 

I realize a 1921 has no value but I really believe that this one does

 

If you really think its proof like, bring it to a coin dealer before you spend money getting it graded.

 

And with all due respect, sir; you're about to lose more if you bother submitting. These guys aren't just yanking your chain here, but are, in fact, only trying to help. Go back to the first page, post #8 I believe, and listen to what that fellow said as 21's are his deal. If you don't want to listen, at least do YOURSELF a favor and research, seeing what is there and not what you want to, before deciding; the learning experience alone will be worth the trouble.

Submitting a couple coins isn't likely to break the bank, but all too often the money may as well been burned instead. Unfortunately, I fear you're going to experience this firsthand.

 

Well, in the aftermath you can consider the cash you'll waste on grading as money spent on education. It will thusly have more value than the coin itself.

 

"Coin dealer" is not synonymous with "expert" or even "knowledgeable", and it's even worse with something like this where so few genuine examples exist. Think about it... how many dealers do you think have handled either? Unfortunately, the average dealer, unless personally interested in such coins, isn't likely to be of much help to this gentleman.

 

I was going to say coin expert, but you know, he's not listening to the numerous coin experts on this forum, you for one(?). So a face to face conversation might convince him, it doesn't take a expert to figure out this coin has been cleaned.

 

Just adding my faint voice to the chorus, coin has been polished, please don't waste your hard earned money on a submission.

 

Before you think about sending it in, look here to see what a real 1921 Proof Morgan looks like. Get a loupe and check for the markers. The photos are more than detailed enough for you to tell.

If you're absolutely dead set on sending it in to be certified, send it to ANACS when they have a special. They're excellent at attributing varieties...

... but, really, this is going to be the outcome.

I think a lot of coin dealers have handled a cleaned 1921 Morgan.

 

All we can do is tell you what you have bill. Sorry but it's a polished coin which will grade au details at best. As for being a zerb or Chapman they have a different reverse as well as other markers that are not on the coin and no amount of anything will change that fact. Please don't send it in but if you must just know as said before you will be flushing your money down the toilet, 1000%, and call it an education

 

The coin in hand is mirror like. This variety wasn't even mentioned in previous red books which is what the average coin collector has. And the description of this variety in the new red book also mentions that this coin was not as nice as previous proofs. But at the same time the 1921 Morgan doesn't have much value and take into consideration that the average collector had no idea that this coin even existed. I am betting that this is truly genuine and OFF to ANNACS IT IS OR IGC.

 

Yeah, yeah... but you know what I meant.

 

Whatever its your money, we warned you.

 

Now you might be talking with some sense instead of knocking it down right from the get go. There is a different reverse? Where did you see that. And if you saw this coin in your hand it looks a million percent different. Sorry I am not a photographer.

 

I've got plenty of money and also smart enough not to waste it. I am one of the thriftiest people you will ever meet. But for you to insult me with a grade 30! This coin shows absolutely no wear.

 

Do you really think 5 different people would lie to you? I specialize in pre 1900 proofs, and am and was aware of the zerbre and chapman dies and this is not one of them. If it was, all of us would be in awe and congratulate you. Envious, but still congratulatory. You have been warned, when you get the results back feel free to update us if we are wrong.

 

I never claimed your coin was VF-30, I said that it might as well be a vf-30, a cleaned 1921 MS detail Morgan is worth as much as a VF-30 1921 Morgan this is a common 1921 Morgan with AU/MS details, its been harshly cleaned. You speak highly of yourself. A penny saved is a penny earned.